Phil Jackson Vs. Gregg Popovich: The Only Real Way To Decide Who’s Better

It’s difficult to pinpoint the influence of an NBA coach on their team’s success without talking of winning percentage and titles. Even with that quantitative data, there’s no way to award one coach more props for leading his team to a title than another. Doing so is what Bill Russell would say was like “comparing ghosts.”

Phil Jackson and Gregg Popovich are the two best coaches of the millennium. They’re also two of the greatest to ever prowl the sidelines during an NBA game, regardless of the generation. We gave you the top 10 players of this century, but these two have combined to win nine of the last 13 titles from their perch on the sidelines, and that’s before we take into account Jackson’s six titles with the G.O.A.T. Currently, Jackson is living in Wyoming while Popovich tries to lead the Spurs to their fifth title. Rather than spend time arguing the merits of a pair of guys that coached Michael Jordan, Tim Duncan, Shaquille O’Neal, Manu Ginobili, Tony Parker and Kobe Bryant during their Hall of Fame careers, we thought we’d attempt to differentiate them using different metrics altogether.

So let’s compare Phil Jackson and Gregg Popovich in seven separate contexts and we’ll see if we can come up with a decidedly unscientific and fictional answer to the question of who you would rather take as your NBA coach. This method is about the same as doing so under the pretense of objectivity.

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1. SIDELINE INTERVIEWS
Both men are a thorn in the side of Ric Bucher, Craig Sager, Lisa Salters, or anyone unlucky enough to thrust a microphone in their face in the middle of the action. The NBA’s policy of interviewing coaches on the sidelines before the start of the second and fourth quarters always seemed peculiar, especially when you consider the prickly nature of coaching itself, but these two made an art out of showing their contempt for the practice and their thinly-veiled – or outright overt – antipathy to the questions has reached an apogee as the NBA has stuck to the rule.

Fans catching a San Antonio game on television are always treated to a curt reply from Popovich that leaves the interviewer busy scrambling to come up with another question while a fan uselessly tries to discern whether Popovich told us anything. Answering the question, for Popovich, is as simple as “We need to play better defense,” it’s pithiness a tacit acknowledgement to the interviewer that he’d rather be anywhere but answering these questions.

Jackson, in particular, takes special delight in antagonizing the men and women assigned to ask the trivial questions he used to hear as the Lakers’ head coach. Supercilious answers were the norm when Jackson was with the purple and gold, but it’s Jackson’s practiced Zen that can make him appear aloof and judgmental of even the simplest of questions. Popovich might give an exasperated sigh before intoning some pithy statement about working harder, but the Zen Master puts on a devious smile, and just oozes irony with every answer. It’s almost as if he’s impishly evoking Camus’ absurdist existentialism to show us all how ridiculous the sideline interview really is. It’s a wonder the sideline reporters even bother with either of these gentleman when they’re coaching their teams.

Jackson’s just making fun of the reporters and sideline reports. They’re both a delight for the hoops junkies that realize how informationally devoid the whole idea of sideline reporting is, but Jackson took the ordeal and turned it on it’s head, so it’s mildly interesting, if only to see how uncomfortable Jackson makes his inquisitor.
Edge: Jackson, but only slightly.

2. WILDIN’ OUT
Gregg Popovich is many things, but a Jim Morrison-backing bandmate from Southern Cali, is not one of them. The only Lizard King Pop knows about is probably an emcee alias of Stephen Jackson. Pop’s pallor has improved since his yearly winter in San Antonio commenced more than a decade ago, but sand still gets into all his crevices and he’s not really a fan of hash as much as he’s a fan of pounding the glass, so drugs are a big no-no.

Conversely, Phil Jackson once corrected Rick Carlisle by saying, “you don’t smoke peyote.” Jax, an abashed experimenter with ganja and LSD, has been kicking it in Wyoming since he retired from the Lakers after being eliminated from the 2011 Playoffs, and while Wyoming is excellent for fish wrangling and avoiding the prying eyes of paparazzi, it’s also pretty square. So we’d think Jackson could do for a little more flamboyant R & R.
Edge: Jackson, by a landslide.

3. DRAWING UP A LAST-MINUTE PLAY
Both men are winners, but Pop is the only one whose success is largely tied to his penultimate understanding of the Xs and Os from Larry Brown‘s wet dreams. Sure, Jackson and Tex Winter must give a crash course on the Triangle every time they ride into town, but Jackson’s true brilliance lies more with his interpersonal skills than it does with the way he can design a backdoor screen flare for a wide-open three. Plus, with Kobe, Shaq, Pippen and MJ, Jackson usually had a player capable of answering the call when the game was on the line. Then again, there was that one time Toni Kukoc took over Scottie’s place, so he can design plays for complementary players, too.

While it’s true that Duncan, Manu and Tony have hit some game-winners in their own right, Popovich’s mastery of the NBA offensive and defensive minutiae means everyone is a threat to hit a late-game dagger. He’s capable of rankling even the most defensive-minded opponents because his teams are all so well-balanced. There’s no way to cheat off an opposing Spurs player. When it comes down to it, Popovich is the one you want with the black pen and dry erase board. Jackson is who you want recommending books to his players. Different approaches, but with the same results.
Edge: Popovich, but only slightly

4) CHOOSING A RESTAURANT
He’s a freakin’ sommelier, so Popovich wins this even as I’m sure Jackson knows where to get some really juicy venison in Wyoming. Choosing a restaurant doesn’t only boil down to which years have the best vintage. When you’re well-versed in the wine choices, you’re generally an expert of the palette – which wines go with which courses is the natural extension of all that.

We’re sure Jackson can be a hoot to eat with, but he never had a problem remaining calm (he is the Zen Master). For Popovich, food and the wine that comes with it, might be one of his only ways to just relax. Plus, he knows what’s nasty.
Edge: Popovich

5. SHARING A LONG PLANE RIDE TO THE FAR EAST
Jackson knows a lot about Eastern philosophy and religion, so he’s just as liable to quote Herman Heese during your ride as talk about the blossoming game in the Far East after the NBA’s post-’92 Olympics diaspora. He can probably tell you about all the ancient temples, all the spiritual enlightenment you can glean from a trip to the Asian continent, all the meditative and restorative powers of the orient. But can he sit comfortably on a long plane ride?

Popovich is a product of the Air Force Academy and the school of Larry Brown (he coached under him at San Antonio), which isn’t exactly the same as a meditative treatise on the spirituality of basketball. He loves the game, but in the gruff, no-nonsense way of a military man. He’s probably super rigid about the instructions from the flight crew, and heaven help you if you want to have a couple scotches while also stationed in the emergency exit aisle. That being said, we already mentioned his knowledge of wine, so he can absolutely recommend something to drink with that slab of veal during your trans-Pacific sojourn.

Jackson’s arthritic hips make sitting almost impossible for long stretches and can you imagine if he has the window seat? He’ll be asking to get up every 20 minutes or so, and you’ll miss the Dennis Rodman/Jean-Claude Van Damme movie they’re showing on Air Japan.
Edge: Popovich, but only slightly

6. PREGAME SPEECH BEFORE AN OPENING ROUND PLAYOFF GAME
Jackson would have more to say about the team itself than their opponents, but what he did say about the opponent would be cutting and accurate. He’d discuss their psychological foibles and which players responded to trash talking versus the players that got psyched out. He might not know the ins and outs of the opponent’s offense, but he’d have an idea of what they’d do when they were in trouble and who would have to bail them out if they got down early.

Popovich would probably have more shot charts than is advisable, but the first three sheets of those charts would be invaluable. He’d go through each and every play the opponent runs, complete with the code words they yell out to initiate the play. If you squeaked out a question about how he knew so much about an opponent’s offense, he’d give you a stare that would melt your internal organs.

Before you ran onto the court for the introduction and start of the game, Popovich might whisper some last-minute advice into the ear of every starter. Something like, “Make sure to funnel him left when the shot clock is under 10 seconds. Timmy will talk you through it when the time comes.”

Jackson might lead a short meditative session where he asks you to not only visualize winning the game, but more importantly you doing your job within the triangle offense. When a bench player lets a rumbling bit of flatulence into the atmosphere, everyone will crack up before Jackson puts on Jefferson Airplane and lights some incense. As the team walks by, the nervous starters all get some words of wisdom. He might say something like, “Now is not the time for the Tao, but for the will to power. Show me you are the Ubermensch.”

If you tap Jackson on his bony shoulder and ask him about his revocation of the austerity usually taught as part of taoism, he’ll giggle and say, “Humility has no place in this game. There’s too much money at stake.” Then he’ll amble out onto the court, and you’ll regret not paying more attention in your Eastern Religions class as an undergrad.
Edge: Jackson, but only by a Popovich nose hair.

7. HOSTING/WATCHING A BASKETBALL GAME IN YOUR LIVING ROOM
Popovich might crack open some nice wine circa [vintage year] and start extolling the virtues of weak-side help defense. Jackson would – we’re hoping – bring his own orthopedic add-on to make your living room couch bearable for the two-plus hours of the game.

They’d both start off by complimenting your living room’s decor, but Jackson would have some amazing anecdote about Bill Russell after seeing the poster of him on your wall. Popovich wouldn’t comment on the Russell print, but he’d remember that you need to let the wine breath for a little while and while he was rummaging around for a bottle opener, he’d take the time to whip up a mean guacamole (we’d have the avocados ready).

Popovich would be talking about some arcane defensive hybrid of man and zone that hasn’t been tried out yet and what that could mean to the game while stirring some onions into the guac. The defense would have absolutely nothing to do with the game on, but you’d sit enraptured anyway. Phil might tell stories, something like the time he and Luc Longley spotted a Great White while snorkeling off the coast of Western Australia. Popovich might get made at a missed defensive assignment on the television screen and spill the guac bowl all over the floor. He wouldn’t apologize, but he’d continue to loudly curse while cleaning up and making some under-the-breath reference to Vinny Del Negro‘s awful defense, which you couldn’t quite make out.

At the end of the night, Popovich might shake your hand and invite you over to his own abode. Jackson might fall asleep on your couch and you’d need to call an ambulance for him in the morning because his back had cramped up so much. After the ambulance arrives, you’d probably slap him five and he’d be wheeled out the door quoting some epigram from Kipling.

Neither one would be a nuisance and they might both leave you feeling a little dazed at their presence the night before. But Jackson would have better stories and Popovich would make you feel slightly intellectually inferior, although certainly not on purpose.
Edge: Jackson, but only slightly

FINAL TALLY: Jackson 4, Popovich 3… But it could have gone either way for no. 7, so lets call it a draw.

Who do you think would be more fun to hang out with?

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