JON: HEY FOLKS WELCOME TO GRUDEN TALK THE TALK SHOW FROM ME JON GRUDEN WHERE I INTERVIEW EXPERTS ON WHATEVER IS IN THE NEWS. TODAY WE’RE GONNA TALK ABOUT THE RECENTLY DECEASED GEORGE MCGOVERN. THIS GEORGE, I CALL HIM ANDY REID. REALLY TOOK A BAD LOSS ON THE BIG STAGE. NOT THE BEST PERSONNEL DECISIONS. BUT HEY THAT DON’T TAKE AWAY THE FACT THAT THIS GUY JUST KNOWS THE GAME. I HAVE HIS BIOGRAPHER ROBERT SAM ANSON HERE ON GRUDEN TALK TODAY. ROBERT, HOW ARE YOU DOING?
Robert: I’m doing well, Jon.
JON: GLAD TO HEAR IT. ROBERT SAM ANSON. I CALL THIS ROBERT BAM MORRIS. SPENT A YEAR IN THE CLINK IN VIETNAM. CAME BACK STRONGER THAN EVER.
Robert: Actually I was a prisoner of war in Cambodia not Vietnam.
JON: CAMBODIA. ANGKOR WAT. CONSTITUTIONAL MONARCHY. USED TO BE CALLED KAMPUCHEA. EVERYTHING YOU WANT IN A COUNTRY, THEY GOT IT. POL POT WAS AN HONORARY MEMBER OF RAIDER NATION.
Robert: And, at the time, it was being surreptitiously bombed by the United States, which is why I was taken prisoner. And those freedom fighters actually supported George McGovern.
JON: LEMME TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT GEORGE MCGOVERN. REAL BAD CHOICE OF TOMMY EAGLETON AS HIS RUNNING MATE. I CALL THIS TOMMY LIGHT BULB BECAUSE HE HAD ELECTROSHOCK THERAPY. BUT HEY THAT’S WHY PENCILS GOT ERASERS. DON’T WANT PEOPLE REMEMBERING THAT BILL CALLAHAN AND RAHEEM MORRIS USED TO WORK FOR ME.
Robert: Yes, the Eagleton choice was really forced on McGovern by the very Democratic party bosses that he was a threat to.
JON: YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT A DEMOCRATIC BOSS THAT IS THREATENED BY YOU LEMME TELL YA ABOUT AL DAVIS. THIS AL, I CALLED HIM MOSES MALONE BECAUSE HE WAS OBSESSED WITH THE VERTICAL ATTACK. SNEAKY GUY. NEVER KNEW WHAT HE WAS UP TO. I ONCE SNUCK INTO HIS OFFICE AND HIS DESK WAS FILLED WITH NOTHING BUT CHICLETS AND PEYOTE. REAL INNOVATOR, THAT GUY.
Robert: An excellent point, as McGovern was frequently painted as a drug using hippie by his political opponents.
JON: WHEN I WAS COACHING IN OAKLAND I HAD PLENTY OF HIPPIES IN THE STANDS. ONE TIME THEY SPRAYED ME WITH LIQUID THC AND THAT WAS THE GAME I PULLED RICH GANNON FOR WAVY GRAVY. STILL BEAT THE CHARGERS THOUGH. NOW THAT WAS A TEAM.
Robert: I’m sorry, did you want to discuss the counterculture’s role with the McGovern campaign in greater detail?
JON: COUNTER PLAY, NOW THAT WAS A MICHAEL PITTMAN SPECIALTY. THIS MICHAEL, I”D CALL HIM HORSESHOE BECAUSE YOU COULDN’T COUNT ON HIM GOING MORE THAN A FEW YARDS AT A TIME.
Robert: I’m sorry, I think I lost you.
JON: THAT’S OK, BECAUSE THAT’S ALL THE TIME WE HAVE ON GRUDEN TALK TODAY. NEXT WEEK KRIS KRISTOFFERSON AND I TALK ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU MIX AL DAVIS’S PEYOTE WITH LIQUID THC.