Gr8 song, but it’s obvious th@ it was made just because people were talking.
I don’t really appreciate the fact th@ it was made because I’ve studied Freemasonry to the T in my college’s library & Ross was the only 1 mentioning much about it. Pyramids & masters, that’s about it. Hov was jus taking bible lines & throwing it around, not creative @ all. 100
^^^stfu.. niggas need to shut their mouths bout blamin the devil on sucess
I mean Jay has said some suspect lyrics in his career, plus his been known to say he doesn’t fully follow conventional faiths
“Christ can’t save you and life won’t begin until the church ends.”
“I never prayed to God, I prayed to Gaudy”
“On my word, I’ve never read the bible in my life” -quote from Fade to Black..
I’m not saying anything or making any speculations… but he does through a lot of ammo out there…
Yo its funny how everyone only notice the negative or what they believe to be negative.
Yes he does say those things, but he is saying all of this with a JESUS PIECE around his neck.
I DONT THINK HOV IS JUST WEARING A WHITE OR EVEN A BLACK MAN THAT HE CALLS JESUS AROUND HIS NECK FOR THE HECK OF IT. IT IS MORE TO IT THEN IT JUST BEING A NICE CHARM. IN MY OPINION.
I’M JUST SAYING…I WOULDN’T WEAR A CHARM OF THE POPE AROUND MY NECK, BECAUSE I DONT BELIEVE IN THE POPE. HE MEANS NOTHING TO ME. SO I WOULDNT SPEND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS FOR A CHARM OF THE POPE. THATS JUST ME.
It’s true. The only way a black man can succeed in America is if he makes a pact with the devil. If you associate yourself with art inspired by African culture you have sold your soul. But if a white man makes it on top, he did it the honest way. All of what I just said is fact.
Jay has mentioned many things as far as religon. Yet you picked a few lines that you feel fit the bill to your arguement. Quit skimming through the music and highlight all that he has says.
I guess what im saying is, if what he (HOV) SAYS can make you believe that he feels a certain way religious wise, then you also have to look at the other side and that is what he is DOING (Wearing a Jesus Charm). I just wouldn’t spend my money on a charm of a man that meant nothing to me.
o please masonery in politics n the industry is real
shxt is real 2 much evidence around me
ANYWAY WHEN TEFLON DON SELLS 650K FIRST WEEK: PLEASE GIVE ME MY CREDIT .. OK?
ps: dnt 4get PLEASE… the REAL noreaga owes him 100 favors
Real talk tho… God can bless you and u still deny him not not want to live for him. And Jay knows this. Despite all the speculation at the end of the day if Jay doesnt make Jesus the lord of his life he isnt in good shape. This is the closet he’ll get to heaven. Just bein real… I want Jay to just come out and say I beleive in Jesus or I don’t. At least we would know. But of course he doesnt wanna lose fans and money and stuff so he’s gonna keep people guessing. Smh… its kinda sad actually… Just becuase Jay is rich dnt mean he’s in good standing with God… He’s rich becuase he works hard and God allowed him to see this success for a reason. It dnt mean he’s on God’s side at all… Just cuz he came out with this verse which I’m not gonna listen to at all doesnt mean anything… dnt worry about us big homie… Worry about the relationship between and ur maker… Im just sayin…
He said “I never prayed to God…I pray to Gotti (the mob boss)”
Religious people are crazy
Who are YOU to say you want the guy to say he believes in Jesus or not? Seriously, who are YOU??? Also, why is this always a discussion about him. This guy is a married man who by all costs seems to have turned his life around. NOBODY says anything about Jay Electronica, all of Wu Tang, Rakim, Busta Rhymes and countless other emcees/rappers who will tell you that the Black man is God and that the God you believe in is a mystery God. No, you love these guys, but yet and still, you want to vilify Jay Z. You guys are shameful. You love the likes of 50 and all these other “gangsta” rappers talking nothing but sex, degradation and mayhem in the spirit of “keeping it real”, but Jay is evil? GTFOH! Yall are the ones drinking the Kool Aide. The devil loves yall because he has yall focusing on the wrong things. YALL are the true puppets of illimunati and the like.
better song cam’ron- labumba…
E From BK
I’m a nobody tryna tell everybody about somebody who can save anybody… Only when Jesus is mentioned thats when it causes problems… Why is that?? I mean if the man wears Jesus pieces then he should at least try and get to know him. Jus sayin…
Thanks for the catch…
I’m not skimming through his music looking for things to attack him with.. but you would be naive not to notice lyrics like that… One was from Reasonable Doubt and another from Blueprint 3, and I’m sure they’re are a significant amount more throughout his catalog…
all these questions will be answered & not on this website or any other.
thank u nigga @ E$, u niggas spend too much type speculating, its real simple u don’t like da artist don’t listen he aint forcin da shit for u to hear
Let he who is without sin cast the first stone. Every time there is a discussion about Jay and the mason connection people start throwing stones. Look in the mirror and worry about your own life.
First and foremost you niggaz are so caught up on jay z and other rappers being free masons and illuminate members but if u had half a brain and knew what u were talking about u would know that this is only a distraction to the real shit that’s taking place behind closed doors. Jay z is a muel at best when it comes to this illuminati shit he’s nobdy even barack is only a figure head. The real top dogs u never seen or heard of ever they are not on t.v. In the music business or politics, so while ur watchin him and woorying about ur favorite rappers personal life the real illuminated ones are laughing because their plan was sucessful. Grow the fuck up and do your research before u come out your face sideways stop watching all theese videos and listening to this bullshit and read a fuckin book
ok, so i heard the song over and over again… “Jay-hova” as some of you choose to call him, drops a few lines saying he’s not associated with the devil.. and you want to swallow it up? the devil’s greatest accomplishment is making you believe he doesnt exsit… open your eyes people.
Wasn’t there an interview with Jay saying he believes a God exists… he believes in one God…BUT hes NOT a Christian… hummmm….This is what he admits to… so him quoting the bible pretending like his relationship with God exist is crock and so are the people on here that believe otherwise
The christians on here are funny.
The majority of christian dogma is based upon TOLERANCE. I find it very unfortunate that more and more, CHRISTian faith is being represented by individuals that are the very antipathy of TOLERANCE.
It is truly unbelievable to me that so many people that take the step of labeling themselves as CHRISTians routinely demonstrate that they are in fact some of the least tolerant people when it comes to their “faith” that you will encounter.
It is unfathomable to me why so many “CHRISTians” believe that it is absolutely impossible to have a spiritual or theological perspective unless it is “the all mighty jesus christ” in which you believe.
If you really believe that the only way to become elucidated to the idea of god is to be a christian or that the only way to have a VALID spiritual experience is through the theology of christianity then you really do have a lot of reading to do. Better yet you have a lot more EXPERIENCING to do!!!!
first off i cant believe im actually taking the time to write on this, but let it be know that christianity today is not the same as christianity when it was first developed and practiced. no religion is the same as it started off decades ago. so to think that any one religion is the right religion to choose is absurd. If u want to start saying people do or do not believe in Jesus or God or anything for that matter maybe you should do a little research into the things you believe in…. as far as “J-HOVA” goes….look into the Jehova witnesses religion and see what exactly Jehova means… or try coming up with a plausible explanation on why if the Free Masons are so secretive they would let some clown talk about it on a song for the world to hear….. how much sense does that really make? i mean honestly… all he is doing is putting on a show…just like a clown does. give it a rest. do something productive with your lives… i hate seeing blogs like this….its stupid yo.
Illuminati is real..Shit aint no joke…all these niggas in that shit. All the music we listen to is devil inspired. Its all apart of his plan. DUMBFUCKS!
Real talk people will say anything or do anything 2 get to the top and you have to think Free Mason has been around 4ever they built this country and they own everything but 4 the Illumanti i thinks its real because for listen 2 not jus jay but everyone’s music and how it changes over the time and you will notice, also the reason people get n illumanti is for money and prosparity so if you take a look at the ppl with the most fame and having their music played alot and in the spotlight all the time those are the one I would look at
If Rick Ross and Jay-Z were really mason’s then they wouldn’t be talking so much shit about it…..Being a mason myself you know you are to never release any secrets write or anything or you will be punished in bad ways
A few misconceptions. First, Jay Z says in one line something about “him who has no sin,cast the first stone.” This is actually very inaccurate, though I hear this all the time. English doesn’t have an exact translation for this Greek word, but the real meaning is…him that has “the same type of sin”, cast the first stone. This verse has been misappropriated so many times. Christ, along with every other prophet in the Bible says you should never allow someone to go on thinking what they are doing is not a sin…but you shouldn’t be quick to judge them either. This is a lesson in semantics, really.
Also, this song is nothing more than a cattle call for ppl to look about being a mason. Rick Ross, because he was a prison guard (most law enforcement are masons…duh) was inducted, and he is doing what others do…trying to get you to ask him…How can I be a mason. Also, in the Bible, there is a passage in Daniel that refers to the masons of that time doing nonGodly things in the temple, and Daniel is actually told not to even dabble in it. FM temples are always pointed in a certain direction that is the opposite of where God said to pray. (At that time, most pagan religions called for worship towards the East, since they were mostly worshiping the sun.) Also, Ross actually explains at the beginning of the song “…that see the sun at midnight” referring to the fact that rituals are always done after the sun goes down, symbolic of hiding in darkness…which is totally against Judaism and Christianity. God clearly said watch out for secret groups…they have something to hide. And they do claim to have secrets.
And one more thing. Regardless of whether Jay Z is satanic, his philosophy is exactly that. Satan’s attempt is to trick us to believe we are gods (see Genesis, Garden of Eden). Jay Z calls himself God, or Hova (short for Jehovah, or Jay Hova). Acd to the Bible, you don’t need to worship Satan to be a satanist, you just have to subscribe to the philosophy. (He also incorrectly believes because he is rich, God has forgiven him…which is the craziest interpretation of the Bible I have ever seen.)Remember, Israel was the downtrodden of the world, and Christ looked for the poor. If you understand the Bible, you understand we are not to look to be rich…because this world was given to Satan. That’s why our riches are in heaven, not on earth. So is he a satanist…yes. But does he worship Satan…yes also,though indirectly. (But mostly all music is satanic….especially rap)
You people need to research, jay z does worship the devil, a person who believe in god would never use the lords name in vein just to be on top. You think he care about you, he only care about getting paid and will step on anyones toes to get it. The masons believe in one world order so that they can take over the world. Open ya eyes & you shell see the truth. It’s all about power and money, nothing more, nothing less!!!
Ok, You can tell Jay-Z and Rickross are masons cause I recall the lyrics of the song say “Big contracts, Big contracters build pyrimids,period,we masters” I’m pretty sure masters reffers to the 32nd Degree of Freemason.
All YOU guys are fu*king RETARDED the illuminati excisted 500 again 500 YEARS AGO.
Why the hell would they just so happen to show up now!? Because it’s BULLSH*T!!
If you pay attention to all the illuminati crap you will see none of it adds up to one another.
FREEMASON are NOT devil worshippers they in fact HELP the people and their CHURCH.
Obviously you guys sit on your ass and don’t go out cause in fact your best friend is probably one.
I can’t believe the media can get in your heads if anything you guys should know that the media lies about stupid sh*t.
Don’t you think that if it was so much of a big secret the world wouldn’t know about it
And believe me the government knows how to hide stuff from people
I know this 1st hand
STOP watching ridiculous YouTube videos and do real research and in fact I’ll give you a lecture right now
FREEMASON are in fact a group for men that pretty much old men go to and they help each other out and NOT worship the devil.
It helps cause it’s so big and has people that know people and that is why famous people, presidents etc. Are Freemasons.
The forefathers (George Washington and the other guys I can’t think of right now) were Freemasons
Now you tell me why the hell FOREFATHERS would BUILD a COUNTRY just to decide to DESTROY it??
Get off your ass and stop being regular black people and go out and read a damn real book
That’s the problem with us black people get a damn education!
Or join the f*cking military then you will see Freemasons that supposably want to take over the world but are in fact dying for their country that FREEMASONS built
The Bible also says that you shouldn’t judge others so if in fact he is a satanist why do you care??
You calling him a satanist is in fact not going by the Bible which also means that’s you are worshipping Satan indirectly.
Do you have your life straight with God??
If you do then don’t worry about it
YOU don’t have to answer to God when the time comes
So don’t worry about it
And stay out of other peoples business
I’m pretty sure your parents taught you that when you was a kid
Cause i know my mama did
I’m going to keep it simple “mind yo own”
Wearing a high priced Jesus Charm….. Reducing Christ to a commercial object. Spending that much money on a jewelery pierce is selfish, vain and flaunting in public making it a symbol of success is irreligious or misdirected… lucifer son of the morning…remember that track? “Lord forgive him, he got them DARK forces in him, but he got a righteous cause for SINNING”…. What is that suppose to mean???
Kanye West, apparently has a HUGE portray of himself depicted as Jesus Christ,,, blasphemous, irreligious???
@Stewy You’re a Mason? Also am I. Read your obligation again. Jay Z said nothing of Masonry, only of himself. If anyone spoke on Masonry, it was Rick Ross, and he didnt reveal any secrets or anything one can find in the Bible. And if your were to violate or trangress your obligation, you wont be “punished in bad ways”…Travel light brother.
sorry….*cant find in the Bible*
sorry…Rick Ross didnt say anything one CANT find in the Bible.
@TravelEast357 I’m so glad to see SOMEBODY knows what they’re talking about. its sad so many FEAR what they don’t understand. I can’t help that, nor will I apologize for my obligation. Seems to me if we had more people who had morals and principles built on positivity and stood by them, this world might be a better place. But alas its full of imperfect men in ALL areas. But now I see why we’re not even to debate with the uninformed. Its no use. Youtube has told them everything. LMAO. Travel Light.
*If you mustmake it by being a freemas** or illimina*** men! You better do that………just get the doe cus i fell i’ts a sin to be in poverty.***make the money n jion the millionares..
*True talk ma niggars*
none of you know the truth behind the freemasons, the illuminati, the skull and crossbones, the bohemian grove, the bohemian owl itself, the age of new order on the back of the $1 bill, right under the santanic pyramid. how many of you think you truly know what’s going to happen in the year 2013? I can guarantee that none of you will get this right.
he snitchng on JAy z
“Lord forgive me I never would’ve made it without the sin” wtf ppl, in other words. “Lord forgive I wouldn’t be rich without being a freemason”. Though there are ppl who are like”jay is a saint” omg if u r 1 of em KISS MY HAIRY ASS