Dr. Cornel West gives his thoughts on Barack Obama, the violence in Chicago, and Hip Hop. Dr. Cornel West says today’s dominate Hip Hop is spiritual malnutrition and says we got to support artist like Lupe Fiasco.
i used to respect this guy.. now he’s a fuckin disgrace, he’s one of those niggas who wont be happy until we give him some kinda title or respect they way we did wit Martin and Malcolm.. but this faggot likes to tear us down and not uplift, fuck off the screen yo.. yea im mad lol
how the fuck is he tearing us down? he’s out their in the streets and offices doing what he has to do to make sure white people don’t look at us as the savages that we are. he’s one of the few niggas actually doin something to move our people forward. and he does this without dismissing Hip Hop, which most intelligent people over a certain age seem to do without hesitation.
u just proved my point.. why the fuck should we care how white people view us? thats been the divide in our damn community… since when have white people become the damn standard? u think they are somewhere wondering if we approve when one of their own shoots up a school? or a movie theatre? or is on to catch a predator fuckin babies? or on teen mom having more babies and making money off of it?.. so why are we so divided by it? it happens in every community and it shouldnt definite us.. see my problem with niggas like u and cornel west is that yall the types to go after your own people as if we need to change, when u should be going after the media for only showing that side of us.. we are not savages, whites like Jeffrey Dahmer who actually ate people are the savages, those whites who u see on to catch a predator who travels miles to fuck and torture babies if Chris Hansen wasn’t there are the savages.. there is a school in Chicago with a 100% graduation rate, all black school bro but u dont know that because all the media shows u is gang violence… dont get me started man, read a fuckin book dawg and quit lettin these blogs tell u about your people.. peace
Damn my brothers are going in. I agree with you both though. Nothing wrong with neither of you guys views, if it came to it, I would back both of you in a debate as its healthy.
That being said, you guys are very articulate brothers, good to know theres many out there that’s whats needed, our views may vary but its all love my niggas.
You guys get it in
why should we care about how white people view us? because white people run this damn country cuzz.
you ever been pulled over for being black? arrested because you “fit the description”? had a cop yoke you up for no damn reason? been in an altercation with a white person and the cop decides you’re the culprit based on the color of your skin?
white people have ALWAYS been the standard. and yes, criminial activity does infact happens in every community. but with our people? it happens far more often. we make up nearly 50% of the incarcerated population. how is that possible when we only consist of a little over 10% of our countries population?
if that doesn’t tell you somethings wrong nothing does. but we’re straying from the initial point here. this isn’t about blacks vs. white, this is about how is he tearing us down?
@Brons.. do u hear yourself cousin?? your response to them constantly patrolling our neighborhoods and running us thru the ringer is for us to act more like them and maybe they’ll treat us better? Boy im glad you’re here now and not back in the day when we needed blacks to not go to the back of the bus, or not only buy shoes in the black section cause you woulda held us back my guy!! and dont be thrown off by those jail numbers, like i said previously about whites actually having more drug convictions but blacks doing more time,thats just what we have to go thru for now, if a kid gets busted with weed in Beverly Hills and another kid gets busted with weed on MLK in any black neighborhood..which kid do you think is going to jail? the numbers are controlled dawg.. let me put it in up to date terms for you, do u remember when Allen iverson entered the league with the cornrows and tats and big jewelry.. they fined that boy for everything cause they didnt understand, all they saw was a thug cause he wasnt like MJ or Magic who followed their rules.. now a guy like Lebron who’s covered in tats is able to be the face of the league because AI pushed the envelope and showed him our blackness wasnt what they thought it was.. i shouldnt have to say no more, but i will say.. KEEP PUSHING DAWG, we gotta make it better for our childrens children.. and preciate the love Moonseye, we need more people like u who understand we arent defined by what the media shows.. our job is to get wealthy so that we own the media station and portray things in its proper light..
realtalk it is not about how white people view us or any other race but how we as african americans view ourselves as a people. you got lil wayne saying he would beat that pussy up like emmit till…comments like that set us back as a people everytime our own people say dumb shit like that. mainstream music is white people …and rappers are the slaves that push make the music. you think that white people are out their in the hood choppin bricks. today’s music is set on drugs,sex,and black on black violence. i am most certain being a young black man from houston,Tx that the schools in chicago that have a high graduation rate are in the white neighborhoods not the black or hispanic hoods.
again.. you’re comparing us to whites!! first u ask if i think whites are out there choppin bricks.. if u check the stats, you’ll see that more whites are arrested for drug crimes, but more blacks actually do time!! thats a financial problem, not enough jobs and opportunity in our neighborhoods.. thats not our fault, but if u sit up and listen to the news all day, theyll make u think its our fault.. we have just as many issues as anyone else, difference is.. we actually hold our people back from being millionaires(shawty lo and his baby mama tv show) in an effort to not look bad in front of them crackers.. but trailer trash crackers like the ones on teen mom actually had a community support them and now they are richer than any of us.. the difference is the support big dawg, every race has fuck up and every generation does crazier shit than the last.. if u let it define u when they splash us all over the news, then u might as well still be a slave.. mental slavery is worse than anything they can do to me physically
Realtalk is right. Hes saying exactly what I would say so I dont even feel I need to add to it other than repeat what he said
“It does not define us and we should be going after media for always trying to portray that side of us when the truth is weve always been miles ahead”
There comes a point when you have to understand that something being said is no longer an opinion but fact, so noone can disagree with what his saying its a clear as can be bro.
A QUESTION FOR BOTH TAVIS SMILEY AND CORNEL WEST
Mr. Smiley, do you intend to return the Millions of dollars that you reportedly made from herding poor Black people and Hispanics into the Wells Fargo “Ghetto Loan” scam to the people who lost their money and homes? And Dr. West, in your learned opinion, what is the appropriate course of action for your friend and associate to take, in accordance with the “prophetic tradition?”
A discrimination lawsuit filed by the Department of Justice, and several articles, including one seeded on Newsvine entitle, “Tavis Smiley – “Ghetto Loan” Peddler for Wells Fargo,” closely associates PBS talk show host, Tavis Smiley, with the Wells Fargo Bank scam targeting poor and middle-class Black and Hispanic borrowers. The article quotes Kelvin Boston, host of “Moneywise, and Keith Corbett, of the Center for Responsible Lending, as calling Tavis Smiley “the big draw” of the Wells Fargo scam. Specifically, the article states the following:
“Smiley was the keynote speaker, and the big draw, according to Boston [host of “Moneywise”] and Keith Corbett, executive vice president of the Center for Responsible Lending, who attended two of the seminars. Smiley would charge up the audience — and rattle the Wells Fargo executives in attendance — by launching into a story about how he hated banks, and how they used to refuse to lend him money for his real estate projects in Compton, Calif., and elsewhere… But what appeared on the surface as a way to help black borrowers build wealth was actually just the opposite, according to a little-noticed explanation of the “Wealth Building” seminar strategy, contained in a lawsuit recently filed by Illinois Attorney General Lisa Madigan.
“Wells’ plan for the seminars all along was to target black borrowers for higher-cost subprime mortgages, not for wealth-building, the suit charged. And the seminars were a part of the bank’s overall illegal and discriminatory practice of steering black and Hispanic borrowers into riskier and more expensive loans, the suit said.”
Subsequent to the law suit, Richard Prince reported in The Washington Independent that Smiley issued a statement indicating that he would sever all ties with Wells Fargo until charges that the company steered minorities into higher-rate loans are resolved. The article went on to say,
“Wells Fargo sponsored Smiley’s radio show on Public Radio International, and underwrote the annual C-Span-televised “State of the Black Union” conference that Smiley organizes. Smiley’s foundation also distributed Wells Fargo materials to young people at foundation events, he told Journal-isms.
‘“I cut everything off with Wells Fargo,’ Smiley declared. He said the move cost ‘a lot of money’; he said he did not know how much.”
On July 12, 2012 Charlie Savage reported in the New York Times that Wells Fargo Bank agreed to pay $175 million to settle the discrimination suit which, according to the Department of Justice, targeted over 30,000 Black and Hispanic borrowers for subprime loans with a higher interest rate than for similarly situated White borrowers between 2004 and 2009.
What makes it particularly ironic that Tavis Smiley would be associated with this scheme to target poor and middle-class minorities is that Smiley is the primary promoter of what he calls “The Poverty Tour,” along with his friend and associate, former Princeton professor, Cornel West. During the tour, on their joint radio talk show, and on numerous media appearances, Smiley and West have gained a reputation for being President Obama’s harshest critics, indicating that the president is not sufficiently focused, and “accountable,” to the nation’s poor and minority community.
In a statement by Wells Fargo put out after the bank agreed to a settlement of $175 Million, they said that while not admitting to any wrong doing, Wells Fargo agreed to a settlement of the law suit because the bank felt that it was the right thing to do.
CNNMONEY quoted Mike Held, president of Wells Fargo Home Mortgage, as saying, “Wells Fargo is settling this matter because we believe it is in the best interest of our team members, customers, communities and investors to avoid a long and costly legal fight, and to instead devote our resources to continuing to contribute to the country’s housing recovery.”
The settlement includes Wells Fargo paying the Black and Hispanic victims of discrimination $125 million in compensation, and an additional $50 million in down-payment assistance to borrowers in the affected communities.
So the question that remains is, if Wells Fargo Bank feels that paying compensating to the poor and middle-class victims of this scam is the right thing to do, shouldn’t Tavis Smiley, the most strident advocate of “accountability” and fervent crusader for the interest of the poor, feel obliged to do the same? Certainly, benefiting from the misery of the poor and minority community would run counter to Mr. Smiley’s zeal for the need of the powerful to maintain accountability.
We’d also like to put that question to Smiley’s friend and associate, Dr. Cornel West. What do you think your good friend and associate should do, Dr. West? What does the “prophetic tradition” dictate is the proper course of action?
We’ll be anxiously awaiting your response . . . MORE
Real talk is dropping real talk as far as the media and the misinformation they potray about us as a people,didn’t know about the all black school in chicago and the 100% graduation rate, that’s big for us and one of many things they keep from the public, just let me add this,cornel west do be going on the deep at times but his subject matter on this blog shouldn’t be dismmissed as something foolish because of your opionin about him already, we should support artists like lupe fiasco that’s actully saying something in their music,he’s one of the few that will actually make that statement or get on cnn and try to push the subject matter about what’s really going on in the world nand not what the media is telling us, we need more lupe fiasco! That’s all I’m saying
preciate it my guy.. and i agree, more artists with a message needs to be heard but not while tearing down the rest of the community.. we gotta get it however we can
@Brons.. i responded but i guess nigel wont post it, but let me just say to u.. the answer to them constantly patrolling our neighborhoods and wrongfully portraying us in the media is not to be more like them.. thats not how we got this far, imagine if the slaves just followed suit and never headed north.. imagine if Dr King or Rosa Parks never pushed the envelope, we have to do the same exact thing.. show them that our kids act out and do dumb shit just like there kids do. We constantly give there children a pass while our children get crucified.. those days are over my guy.. and the prison numbers are controlled, dont be swayed by that.. if a child gets busted in Beverly Hills for weed, and another child gets busted on MLK (cause u know thats the hood everywhere) for weed, which child do u think is going to jail? the numbers are controlled, the only thing that gets your race overlooked is if u got money.. if u got money, the rules dont apply to you.. if you’re white, the rules bend for you.. in the inner city, we’re poor and black.. 2 strikes!!
mane fuk lupe and this ol uncle tom azz nicca so quick 2 tear down another blk man but wont say nuthin bout white folk who do da same shit cosign realtalk dats sum real shit