TSS: How long does the entire project take, including mixing and mastering?
Jeron: The recording process? Well, we literally started at the stroke of midnight, on Thursday morning. We’ll end up recording pretty much until Sunday morning. We really just take each song and see what the collaborations were like, because everything moves so quick. So, we go back and listen to it, make some edits. From there, we take it to mixing and mastering and look for some singles from the project, really within about two weeks. We try to get the turnaround pretty quick. We also have video and images coming, as well.
TSS: Was there anybody that weren’t you weren’t able to get on the project this go round?
808 Blake: Jay-Z.
Rick: Michael Jackson.
Jeron: Andre 3000. You know, those kind of guys.
Rick: But, you know what? The project isn’t over. So, never say never.
808 Blake: Yeah. Hopefully, Mike can come back from the grave.
Rick: Well, we know Mike’s not coming back. But, I do got a lost verse from Mike, so…
808 Blake: We got a hologram of him.
Rick: Nobody had Michael Jackson hologram sighting yet. That’s hard. You heard of 2Pac, of course…
808 Blake: Queen did it, I think.
Kato: They tried to with Queen. And Elvis.
Rick: But, nobody’s seen Mike. I guess he dead.
TSS: Let’s move from the Stankonia Sessions to Big Boi’s new single, “Mama Told Me” – which was produced by The Flush, for any readers that don’t know. Singles are super important these days and lot of times there are failed singles from projects How did you guys settle on that record decide it was the one you were going to move forward with?
Rick: Actually, the people did it. The listeners. Once they performed that song in Texas with Little Dragon, like people went bananas, like ‘This is new dope shit, let’s go with it.’ So, the label called Big and they were talking about it and he was like, ‘You know what? This is the single. This is it.’
You know, it took us by surprise. You know, when we create music, we create it to be effortless and timeless. That’s all we go for. We don’t want to play something that’s for three months. Or, it just plays for that year and you never hear it again. So, the people picked what they wanted to hear and I hope they want to hear that for the next 20 to 40 years.
TSS: To me personally, it reminded of like an ’80s record like Cameo record or something like that, which is dope. That’s the shit I like. I’m sick of trap music, you know?
Rick: That’s the vibe we were goin’ for.
TSS: Yeah, I mean…I want something new and I guess with Big, that’s expected. Outkast and Big are maybe the most eclectic rappers ever, on the mainstream market. Everybody knows that. Having worked with them so much, is it hard to materialize that kind of output with that kind baggage?
Jeron: Well, with us it’s become a family situation, so…you gotta’ understand, we’re here every single day. So, as far as pressure, there’s never really any pressure, or baggage. We really take it as an honor and something we definitely consider a privilege. Growing up here in Atlanta, I never imagined I’d be making music for heroes. And, I know we can pretty much say all that, as far the The Flush goes.
So, you know…there’s not as much baggage as people think there is. It’s a very organic process. Every record we’ve gotten to do with them, it’s just been one where Big was walking by the room….and he hears it, then next you thing you know the world hears it. Then, it just grows from there. It’s definitely not something that’s forced, where we’re like ‘Hey Big, you gotta’ go with this one.’ If he likes it…it is what it is. We go from there.
Rick: To interject on something he said, we never gave Big a CD and said, “Here, we’ve got some beats for you. Listen to these.” I mean, we did that back in the day, but everything you’ve heard with him, Dre, Jannelle – whoever has gotten on it – that has come from us grinding hard and he may just pop up. And, it always happens between 2AM and 4AM in the morning. Always! Always!
Jeron: The golden hours.
TSS: So, at that point…are you guys just thinking, ‘OK. It’s 2:30AM, let’s break out the bangers!’
808 Blake: Banger time.
Rick: I mean, it just happens. The stars align. For the Flush, it just happens around those times.
TSS: Stepping away from Big’s project and Outkast, and just speaking in general terms – has the dynamic work when there’s a collective of producers like this coming together?
808 Blake: Man, I think we just work well together. I mean, everybody has a mutual respect. Like, ‘Who’s making beats now? You wanna’ do it?’ Nobody’s fighting each other. Nobody’s chest bumping, trying to outdo or outshine. We all in there and just wanna’ make the best project we can make. So, whoever wants to step up at the time and play some beats, let’s do it. And, if they don’t got it, somebody else will play up.
We’ve always been very good about keeping a very good vibe in that room. It’s a creative and collaborative atmosphere, rather than combative and competition. Who needs that? We’re all just trying to have a good time, network with people and make a good project. So, I just enjoy every time we come together, man. This is year two? This is like our summer camp.
Rick: Yup. Our summer camp. [Laughs]