In this extremely candid interview with TSS Crew’s TC, Ghost revels in his maturity as an artist, explains why fans should respect his latest musical endeavor and his future label plans. If you think the album is poetic, wait til’ you get a load of his candor.
TSS: So on Ghostdini: Wizard Of Poetry, you’re delving in the “Back Like That,” “Never Be The Same Again,” “Wildflower,” “Love Sessions” territory, correct?
Ghostface Killah: (Laughs) Yeah, it’s literally all of that. There’s nothing but poetry on that shit with all the different topics. It’s just something a nigga been always wanting to do. You know this will be my last album over here on Def Jam. So I was on some ol’ “Yo, you know what? I gave my fans samples, since ’92…I did albums B…I never really seen no money off the shit.” Just so my fans could fuck around and love me for my music as far as my lyrics. And I never got nothing from a bunch of ’em…even as far as being in the red. And when I mean being in the red, I mean not recouping! Doing a bunch of other shit to make it right.
But this is what I’ve wanted to do…SINCE I did “All I Got Is You” [from Ironman] or “Never Be The Same Again” [from Bulletproof Wallets]. People always came to me like “Why don’t you do more songs like that?” because they like my stories, nah mean? Even if it’s a rap story like [on “Shakey Dog”] or whatever, they like stories. So what I did — I compiled a bunch of stories over nice beats.
TSS: Let’s say someone comes across the album in the store not having a clue what was on it. Because you know you can’t miss that green cover. Where would the music take them from a blind buy?
Ghostface Killah: It’s more mature and it’s more grown. It’s just another stepping stone for me but it goes in the archives for Ghost. And you know, I’ll catch niggas back on the other shit, street shit, whatever, whatever, whatever. Cuz I tell niggas like this: I’m a grown man B. I can’t be 25 years old all my life. There’s other shit that I wanna do. And if my fans can’t grow with me, then this album is not for you. You don’t have to buy it, you don’t have to listen to it. Just leave it alone. I’ll see y’all on the next shit.
It’s like a baker baking cakes and he come out with this red velvet shit, but niggas is so used to lemon cake, they don’t wanna fuck with the red velvet. They be like “Yo, yo, he coming out on some other shit, can’t get wit’ that.” But it’s like, nah nigga, when I come back to hittin’ that lemon cake, y’all niggas can get a slice of that shit. But right now, we puttin’ out red velvet.
TSS: And you proceeded with the album even though you said it may cost you some fans…
Ghostface Killah: Yeah, but you know what? It’s like if I lose some fans, y’all niggas was never my muthafuckin’ fans anyways. Because only a real fan can understand you as a person. Like Mary J. Blige for example. When she [made] No More Drama, muthafuckas was trying to diss her and diss her album, talkin’ bout it’s not What’s The 411? But Mary stopped wildin’, and being in clubs and doing drugs and all that other shit she was doing. She became a woman. And to this day, now those muthafuckin’ fans wanna try and act like they understand her now. Now they wanna be on her dick again.
And you never know man; these fans right now, they young fans… a lot of these niggas is knapsackers. And with me doing this album, questioning me and shit, I’m like “How do y’all niggas don y’all girl?” First of all, do y’all niggas got a girl? Because you not gonna understand these situations and what the fuck I’m talking about if you ain’t got no girl or ain’t never been through shit. Because on [Wizard Of Poetry] I ain’t just talkin’ no lovey-dovey smoochy shit. I’m talkin’ bout me getting a bitch pregnant…losing my muthafuckin’ girl! And my girl was the good girl! She was the one who stood by me, going to jail when she telling me to chill. NOW I’m pleading her for and shit like that. I did my girl so dirty, now I gotta another nigga wearing my robes, spraying my cologne, playing my CDs in his boxers in my muthafuckin’ crib. Now I’m lonely, on the outside lookin’ as lonely than a muthafucka. My kid tellin’ me “Yo, daddy! This nigga like his eggs well done and we watching surround sound on your shit!!!”
TSS: (Laughs!!!) I mean it does happen…
Ghostface Killah: Yeah, and don’t get me wrong, I still got the shit where I’m throwing my dart at the females — you know how us niggas do, we still shoot our gift and game and all that. It’s just all situations on some grown man shit.
TSS: The track “Guest House” with Shareefa & Fabolous is instantly a fan favorite. What inspired you to visualize that drama?
Ghostface Killah: I’m just a storyteller B. I had to write for three people on that joint. Fab was the cable guy. It’s Friday night and my girl acting like she went out to get some milk and all this other shit. Bitch ain’t never come back. I’m looking for her all in the house…I don’t see the bitch. I fucked around and went to the guest house and get my gun because I figured something happened to her…this nigga Fab in there fuckin’ my bitch! Oh shit! Now we on that Ron Isley/R. Kelly shit. Now we going back in forth…she on that bullshit like “It ain’t what you think!!!”We going back and forth.
These is just topics. Grown man shit! Niggas can’t write like I write!!! [Tone gets aggressive] Nigga I write movies! And for a fan to act like I’m losing them…? Those niggas can suck my dick, straight up. Because like I said: niggas know Ghost for talkin’ that shit “My ice is this…cars is this…my chain is this and that and the third…” I wanna see these niggas. What they listen to with their girl? Y’all niggas listen to Barry White or Marvin Gaye? What y’all ride to with her? They knew what I was doing with in the beginning when I kept saying I was coming with it so it’s like that. Y’all niggas wait for the next muthafuckin’ shit and we’ll get on the next train. Other than that nigga, don’t talk about my shit B.