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"The Best And Worst Of WWE WrestleMania 29 Live"
I would have totally accepted it had you skipped over Wrestlemania (or at least postponed it) to review last night’s awesome Raw.
Alas, my anticipation doth live.
Wool! Finally a Wrestlemania related thing that will make me happy!
Well, besides Fandango winning.
I know everybody’s going to say that RAW last night was way better, and it was, but WrestleMania was still highly enjoyable to see in person. Was it predictable? Absolutely, but it was still worth it just for CM Punk vs. Undertaker, to be honest.
Totally agree. I had a blast, and it sounded like everyone else in my section at least did too.
Punk-Taker came off amazing on TV. I could see if some of it was lost live, because close ups were key. Them mentioned moment of Taker “no-selling” the anaconda vice, I thought, was a tremendous callback to the old-school “sit-up” moments Taker used to have, especially if you saw the death stare he gave Punk when he popped up. It was awesome.
Never be the bigger man, Brandon!
Also, Tony from Smackdown ’09.
Zack Ryder’s Wrestlemania moment legit made me tear up when I first saw it.
But Ryder was victorious over catering in their highly anticipated matchup.
Yay! The kid’s gonna be ok.
Yeah, that was really sad.
same here … but then, I imagined f*cking antonio freakin’ cesaro AND kaitlyn doing the same and I forgot about ryder …
OH NO, KAITLYN! I’m here if you need a hug Kaitlyn…or a bf.
did brandon jump the shark with that monkey pee video?
If I did, I jumped the shark last year, because it’s a reference to last year’s column.
Almost as good as Ptichfork’s Jet album review.
Best: Awesome video package of famous Mania moments set to Rocky 4 music.
Worst: Being the intro for Puff Daddy……who then couldn’t sing his own songs.
No, I’m pretty sure that was Victory from the very beginning.
I heard that the Cena and Rock entrances were cut to make room for more time in the HHH-Brock match.
What. The. Fuck.
This is Wrestlemania. We already saw the same match at Summerslam. MAKE THE $70 WORTH IT WITH SPECTACLE, DAMMIT.
When I read, POOR UNFORTUNATE SOULS, I immediately thought of THIS: [images2.fanpop.com]
That is what it is in reference to!
I seriously broke into song and everything.
Worst: Guy wearing a Shoon Greene jersey in public. LOL!
“Worst: The Shield Didn’t Come Down In A Helicopter Like I Was Hoping”
So I was not the only one who was secretly hoping that helicopter doing outside shots was actually carrying The Shield so they could repel down to the ring?! YES! I was irrationally disappointed when they came through the crowd..
I didn’t think of the helicopter, but I was thinking, “maybe they’ll repel down from the roof over the ring” before remembering, “oh yea, Owen,” and then being sad for a minute.
I looked at the size of the stadium and wondered if the pre-show actually kicked off with their entrance, and they were just in time to meet Orton and “Friends” after they came out.
As a Canadian, I would also be friends with you.
wait until you hear me say “y’all,” it’s going to crack you the hell up
Heh heh, ya’ll. You southeners talk cray-zee, eh?
Is that a promise for New Orleans?
Haha! Canada. Their cops are called mounties…
As a Canadian, it is always funny to hear someone say “y’all”
And it is always funny when people pay for basic medical care.
fuck the merch selection. at axxess and mania. brutal.
hopefully the new punk shirt is properly stocked tonight, because i do not want to wait any longer for it.
There was no helicopter, but there was the threat of a plane going down every time they shot off a firework…
there totally was a helicopter, and it flew toward the entrance ramp right when the Shield was supposed to enter. Got my hopes up so hard.
Oh yeah that was the production’copter from which we got all those super cool aerial shots.
That chopper DID get closer to the ring before the Shield’s match, too. It wasn’t my eyes playing tricks on me. I’m showing this report to the people I went with, to prove to them that I’m not completely insane. Or that we both are, Brandon.
I wouldn’t feel too bad about not liking Punk and Taker’s match. It was definitely my favorite match of the show but I didn’t think it was fantastic or anything (Athena vs. Hamada was the best match of the weekend). When you watch it back, I assume you’ll like it a bit more but it’s certainly not MOTY of anything crazy.
I rather enjoyed Punk-Taker, but I agree to some extent. I thought the ending felt very abrupt. Last year’s match was stupid in that HHH-y WrestleMania-Rocky II-IV spam-finishers way, but it felt like it was structured to tell a specific story that built to a crescendo that was earned. This year, it was a fun back and forth but it just sort of ended unnaturally and quickly, and I was left going “Oh, okay.”
I was among the ones too focused on Ziggler during Del Rio-Swagger, and upon rewatching it, I was really taken with how good a match it actually was. My favorite was Swagger genuinely selling the cross-armbreaker like someone having a cross-armbreaker applied to them, instead of just patiently deliberating on whether to tap out like most hold-victims seem to do.
Rock and Cena hating each other is SO 2012
So I’m not crazy? Del Rio vs. Swagger actually *was* good? Thank goodness, you’ve saved my star system from disarray.
I thought it was the second best match of the night (Punk/Taker had a lot more emotion to it for me), but the best actual wrestling match. It was extremely good.
Yeah, I thought it was a nice mix of the intensity of the Brock/HHH match and the goodness of an actually-good wrestling match.
You are not crazy. Those reversals at the end were really good…especially when you compare them to the Cena/Rock reversals.
Nice to know you had a good time at ‘Mania. Did you notice The Rock was hurt when you saw him live? You’d think if you lost your abdominal and abductor muscles, you could barely move, let alone wrestle.
I heard he was ran over in the car park afterwards. Police can nearly confirm nor deny that two suspicious-looking wrestling columnists were behind the wheel.
No, he looked like he always does.
I think he looked a LOT trimmer than he did previously. Working out for his new Hercules role? Or ahem-Wellness-Policy-Violation-Thanks-For-Wasting-One-Of-Brocks-Dates-You-Asshole…
Rock and Cena completely messed up by not having the fake out version of last year’s finish as this year’s finish. That was so much more awesome than the 5 minutes of finisher reversals.
It wouldn’t have mattered if the rest of the match wasn’t that great, that would have been all anyone remembered. Cena pointing at his head and beating Rock.
Anyway as an unabashed Cena mark I was very happy to see him win. Can’t wait for Thrice in a Lifetime: Twice before, we’ll see how we feel after this one.
So any chance we see a Best/Worst of ROH & Wrestlecon?
I think HHH is the biggest asshole in all of Butt Land but I actually enjoyed his match. Brock got to look like a total beast before letting the ego win.
I agree. Much like his match with Cena, Brock looked like a monster.
I was surprised that I liked it as much as I did, as I don’t generally go into a HHH match thinking it is possible to like it. Especially when I know that the shoot baddest dude on the roster is going to eat a pin to the shoot guy with most creative control on the roster.
Can we pretend that everything after Punk v Taker never happened or was a bad food poisoning related nightmare.
If I were EVER to be given the keys to the WWE kingdom on some Charlie Buck shit, the first thing I would do is sit down Triple H in a room and have him try to explain me how burying the best heel in the company could POSSIBLY make the company money? You know the company he has a financial obligation as one of the shoot board of directors?
And then after he fumbles and explains to me how THIS BUSINESS works, I will explain how ACTUAL business works and fire him on general principle.
It’s soooooo greviously and obviously dumb to have an aging has-been performer nobody gives a shit about anymore slay the biggest dragon your company has these days. HHH beating Brock made me soooooooooo mad on Sunday Night. This is my 18 seconds moment.
There is no shoot board of directors.
I meant he is a high ranking executive at the company with a duty to the company beyond his ambition as a performer.
I like these live reviews pretty well. They’re not too heavy on the “me” stuff and they give the perspective you can’t get on TV.
I thought the Punk match was good, especially compared to those later things. And if you watched on TV, the lack of TOF/Rhodes Scholars was that much more infuriating because of the amount of video packages and commercials that played.
The CM Punk shirt is fantastic. Thanks for doing these as always.
I really enjoyed this one too and think you’re dead on about the live reports. The WWE is trying to play to both a live audience and the audience at home and to get a live perspective from a person who actually likes wrestling, is capable of writing and spends more than an hour gathering his thoughts makes for a fun read.
While you might be right about striking the appropriate balance between personal stories and straight commentary, I do have to admit I really enjoyed reading the “me” stuff that was in this column. There’s a vibe on Withleather where certain wrestlers are appreciated or disliked that differs from what seems to be the natural vibe at the events. Hearing about the interactions between Brandon and “regular” WWE fans is one of the things that makes this interesting.
I’m also really partial to this type of presentation. You’ve got to write what you think but I enjoy “I don’t want to say this like I’m proud of being some smarmy anti-fun asshole” as opposed to “If you stopped thinking this way you’d be happier.” Language that implies here’s what I think almost always comes across better than a here’s what you should think.
I’m going to keep reading regardless but I liked this column even more than usual. Really looking forward to the one tomorrow.
Jill Thompson did that shirt? Fuck. Getting it. Even though I NEVER do people on shirts.
I kinda liked the Diddy stuff, but between all the feels from Wrestle-Con, Watching Mania with friends who enjoyed it and weren’t just in it to make snarky comments and a pretty lengthy conversation I had on the bus ride to and from Secaucus on Saturday about Jurassic Park, I felt like I was in a time warp to the mid-90’s. You can ask Casey, Ashley, Lobby or Chudley, I knew every word.
Maybe this is just me reading into it too much, but I think the hands on the back of the CM Punk shirt are a reference to Davey Havok’s tattoo – harkening another loose connection between CM Punk and AFI. This is awesome to me. Picture below:
Given, I also think that the IT’S CLOBBERING TIME is as much a reference to Sick of it All as it is to the thing.
Anyways: Always enjoy the write ups, man. I’m happy I got in the top ten.
Havok’s tattoo is a straight reference to the Albrecht Durer print, so Punk’s shirt might be in reference to Havok or Durer.
Also can we talk about how BOSS Punk’s concert was?
It was one of my highlights of the night, for sure. Hey, they even slightly changed some of the lyrics to match Punk even more.
No, they didn’t change any of the lyrics. Those are the regular lyrics. They’ve always matched Punk like that. It’s pretty neat.
Honestly, to me, this was one of the most predictable Wrestlemanias I’ve watched. I ended up winning the pot at my Wrestlemania party with an almost perfect pick (I picked Tons Of Fun to win; they didn’t even go on). I enjoyed the first half, like Brandon, and I tuned out after Punk vs. Taker.
I really don’t have much to say about WM this year. It was, for lack of a better term, meh.
I just gotta agree with you …
however, I’m really REALLY “trying my hardest” to forget about the last two matches (all the video packages at raw and the coming ones at main event and smackdown aren’t helping …) and it’s actully working ! it’s making me think “HENRY WON ! SHEILD OUTSMARTED ORTON AND SHEAMUS ! FAAAN-DAAAN-GOOO FOR EVEEEERRRR !! YES YES YES ! AND PUNK WAS AWESOME !!!” and just that.
You picked Henry? If so, well played, sir.
I actually didn’t pay much attention to most of HHH/Lesnar either. There was a spot during the match where HBK was attacked by Lesnar or something which led my friend and I to joke for most of the it about how HBK is gonna have recurring hunting nightmares where a giant bear is constantly trying to maul him. The joke was that the bear had a weird sword shaved into his chest fur and a Jimmy John’s logo shaved into his ass and his name was Bear-ck Lesnar. So there’s that.
Though I enjoyed parts, overall I feel like a shmuck for ordering Wrestlemania — and even more so after watching Raw late last night. Seriously, no backstage vignettes. No interviews. No legends making an appearance (other than the brief HOF recognition). And they STILL had to cut a match I was looking forward to. I spent $70 and basically got a non Big 4 show that was utterly TROUNCED by the free show I watched the next night. Even the parts I enjoyed have to be tempered by the fact I basically had to pay $30 more than I used to in order to be shown closed circuit commercials.
I heard Dave Meltzer on the radio right after Mania, and he said they actually filmed a bunch of backstage vignettes – mostly for the WWE app, although a couple were planned for the PPV itself apparently. Then when the app crashed and time was too tight to get in all seventy ads and promos, they decided not to run any of them.
And that’s the problem. I AM A PAYING CUSTOMER. I SHOULDN’T HAVE TO BE SHUNTED OVER TO YOUR FREE APP IN ORDER TO SEE STUFF I THOUGHT I WAS PAYING FOR.
Maybe it was just the sound at the Hooters where I watched this but the crowd seemed pretty dead for Lesnar/H. If that’s the case, I’ll assume it was because “crowd tired/no breather match” but the match was damn dull anyway.
Yeah, that was well documented in the open thread. The crowd was hot for Undertaker/Punk and then just seemed bored out of their minds for Triple H/Bork. I think that reception, plus the rowdy crowd at Raw, is why Triple H retreated to Smackdown, land of the fake crowd noise dubbing, to give his follow-up promo.
Yeah, Triple H’s career is safe, so he can then spend the next 3 months off TV before rolling out of bed to have a match at Summerslam for no real reason.
What I’m saying is how is anything different with the win? He hadn’t wrestled since he lost at Summerslam to Bork anyways. Pretty sure you’re already Mick Foley retired with your one or two matches a year schedule Trips.
What happens now – we don’t see Bork Lazer until Summer?
Always enjoy reading these.
Perhaps I’m reading too much into this, but I think the hands of the CM Punk shirt are a reference to Davey Havok of AFI here is his tattoo:
GIven, I also think that IT’S CLOBBERING TIME is more of a Sick of it All reference than it is a Thing reference.
Great write up as always Brandon, can’t wait to see what you have to say about Raw.
This was my first Mania live and in person, and I had a blast, outside of Rock/Cena II. I’m already thinking about New Orleans next year, and how many organs I’ll need to sell on the black market to afford tickets, travel and accommodations.
I am also one of the apparently growing horde who assumed that helicopter would play SOME sort of role in WM outside of capturing arial shots. I had gotten a HOT TIP (aka a friend of mine is also friends with Seth Rollins, and he told my friend that he thought the Shield were gonna get the nod to open Mania) the night before, so the circling copter definitely got me excited. Minor letdown, though, as I ADORED Rollins’ leaping/rolling entrance over the barricade.
I was literally the only person in my entire section (212, btw) who cheered for Fandango. They’ll all come around soon enough. I told them to expect Fandango/Taker, streak-vs.-streak, for WMXXX.
It’s weird sitting in an open-air stadium that far away from the ring, because you can barely hear any of the impact at all. I think that’s what made it hard for the crowd to get into the Lesnar/HHH match, as it looked brutal enough, but it was like watching a silent film. There actually seemed to be a live mic still on somewhere near ringside, because every once in a while you’d hear grunting or someone hitting the ringpost or something.
Super-surprised at no National Anthem/America The Beautiful/backstage segments/assorted tomfoolery. It was pretty much just a bunch of wrestling (and video packages), which I’m okay with. I also loved the pre-show, and wish the post-show would’ve been broadcast in the stadium as I would’ve hung around to watch that too.
So…how many organs you looking to sell?
I’ve tried to post this a couple times and it didn’t go through, hopefully I’m not breaking any rules, but I think the hands on the Punk shirt are a reference to a Davey Havok (of AFI fame) tattoo. I approve.
And as always, enjoyed reading the column.
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I was there live, too, and I have to say it was, over all, an amazing experience. Definitely bucket list material. I get that a lot of people didn’t enjoy the main event(s) and they were overly predictable, but I still had a blast. Then again our section was lively and pretty inebriated.
Also, what the hell ran so long that they had to cut a match, have John Cena and the Rock practically sprint to the ring, paste the Swagger/Del Rio video over Swagger’s entrance and have the Hall of Famers wave quickly while practically catapulting them across the stage?
WWE’s time budgeting for PPVs, especially WrestleMania is atrocious and I don’t know why. Are they so used to getting extra time on USA that they freak out half way through ‘Mania when they realise they can’t go over and start chopping everything?
Triple H wanted that five-minute armbar spot.
Hey Brandon, did you do any touchups to these pictures, because on the Team Hell No vs. Team Rocket picture, I can see Kane’s legs but can’t see anything above them. It’s as if his torso turned invisible so you could have the perfect viewing angle for D-Bry covering his ears.
I was honestly expecting the Best and Worst of Raw because… HOLY SH*T, THAT CROWD!
Patience my friend, good things come to those who wait.
Shaul Guerrero as a sexy Martian………..mmmm yummy!
I get so annoyed with the fact they need to cut things to make other things longer. Going 25 minutes doesnt make something automatically epic. I was at WrestleMania 22, and Angle/Rey/Orton had a banger, and it was what, 9 minutes? If it went to 25 minutes, would it have been a guarenteed classic? Who knows. There might have been 13 minutes of rest holds added.
But then Kurt Angle would have suplexed both men during their rest holds, so yea, bad example, that match would have been epic.
I also enjoyed the taker/punk match but didn’t think “EPIC !” after it was done too … I especially liked exactly what you talked about in it , which is basicly “cm punk is a wrestling fan~ before being a wrestler and knows the little details that will make people like him” …
I also was one of the guys that really really really really really wanted punk to win that I totally believed in it until the very end even with all the little things that you could totally know from it that he’s losing !!!
does anyone else think the Crowd (yes, they earned the capital “C”) singing Fandango’s entrance music sounds a great deal like the theme from Bewitched?
No complaints here.
That Punk shirt is pretty cool– and it’s even cooler knowing who designed it– but I feel like it would make a better poster than a shirt. Because as a shirt… well, it’s kind of gaudy.
That said, I kinda hope it’s available when I go to Smackdown in May (front row!! On my birthday!!). I’ll seriously consider picking it up. That or a Cesaro shirt.
I’m glad you had a fun time Brandon.
It was actually the first time I refreshed the page every 5 minutes to see if the B/W Wrestlemania report is up just to finally restart refreshing until the AWESOME RAW report is ready ;)
I can’t help but think they had Swagger drive the Jeep as a nod to his DUI.
You should have found those girls and been like “WHO’S A SMARK NOW” and given the Milhouse who’s stupid now laugh
Yeah but the answer would have still been him. Think about it.
I realize that.
I wore my Bent on Destruction shirt in support of Henry and was high fiving all of my party guest when he won.
Am I the only one who thought last night’s Raw was horrendous? The crowd was great, but the actual program was insultingly bad.
I kind of agree. I mean, Ziggler’s cash-in was great (and the crowd’s reaction made it SO much better); but the matches themselves were nothing special. In fact, the *fact* that Orton-Sheamus was nothing special is what got the crowd really going in the first place.
I feel like people who are honestly saying “Raw was better than Mania” should actually be saying “I wish Mania was still held in arenas, so the crowd reaction would sound better.”
wow ! spot on !! I totally thought the same !!!
me and my brother were thinking “what’s gonna happen at raw now ?” before it began .. and I SWEAR TO GOD ALMIGHTY that E-V-E-R-Y-THING (other than barret winning the title back) was something that we said they would do LITTERALLY ! and they were like doing the same booking of raw that we would imagine !!!
Ziggler cashing in on Raw instead of at Mania was a terrible idea. His whole gimmick is that he shows off, so let him do it on the big stage where that might mean something, instead of the first hour of Raw.
Why did they have to punk out Mark Henry to set up a Ryback heel turn? At least let him look good in a real match before losing instead of a three-minute countout. Or make that a title match, instead of having the Smackdown GM book a match where Henry has to beat the Raw champ to earn a title shot.
Speaking of Booker T, yay for more dueling authority figures! First Vickie makes Sheamus vs Big Show, then Booker makes Orton vs Big Show, then they do a twitter vote on who should fight Big Show, until finally they just say “fuck all that time we wasted, let’s just make it Orton vs Sheamus because fuck you, that’s why.” Then the match goes on forever, the crowd gives zero fucks about it to the point that they were CHANTING MICHAEL COLE’S NAME, and rightfully so because the whole idea of making faces fight over who gets to take revenge is idiotic, plus those two faces have lacked direction for months.
There were two job squad vs job squad matches. Sure, Tensai was funny, and Rhodes Scholars are great, but they didn’t even show the full match, and were still short on time at the end.
Speaking again of things that went way too long: What purpose does Jericho beating Fandango to death serve? Was it supposed to be a double turn? Jericho had his evil smirk going. (That would be brilliant if it was planned that way, but I think it was supposed to be just standard WWE face behavior.)
I think having Miz win the title for a day was the only possible way to devalue the IC title any more.
The only reason I can think of for Henry being treated the way he was is that if Henry had looked too dominant– or won the match– then people would expect a Triple Threat match at Extreme Rules. As it is now, Henry is (unfortunately) an afterthought.
I’m OK with Ziggler cashing in on Raw, but I understand the argument against it. But if it was on Mania, it would have been overshadowed by everything. On Raw, it was the second biggest story behind Cena getting Ryback’d.
And I hate– HATE– the idea of a power struggle between authority figures. I’ve enjoyed Vickie being in the background, just showing up to do funny little things with Maddox. Plus, I haven’t really liked Booker T since his best-of-seven series with you-know-who in WCW.
I actually think the biggest stories on RAW were as follows:
1) DOLPH ZIGGLER CASHES IN
2) Fandango’s music is now the most fun chant
3) Rock apparently wastes one of Brock Lesnar’s rare dates
4) Ryback may or may not be a “heel” (face?) after assaulting John Cena
I can’t (or don’t want to) separate the crowd from the show. I also really loved how much fun JBL, King and Cole were having.
From a storyline perspective, it also made a lot of sense. I would think the WWE wanted Del Rio to leave victorious at their big event. Forcing Coulter to watch the Mexican leave victorious seems to work as kind of a comeuppance for the guy booked as a racist. I don’t think you can tell that story effectively with Swagger injuring Del Rio so badly that Del Rio would be an easy mark for Ziggler.
Meanwhile, the criticism of Ziggler was that he was waiting too long to cash in his briefcase. By having Ziggler cash in on a one-legged Del Rio, you make Del Rio look like a warrior and Ziggler come across somewhere between cunning and cowardly.
Cashing in on at a big event, damn the consequences, is the John Cena move. Cashing in at the most opportune time is the Ziggler/Punk/Edge move. I like the contrast.
They could easily have booked the WM match to end with an opportune time for Ziggler to cash in, and had it been on the big stage.
As for Zeb and Swagger, losing and being upstaged seems like a good comeuppance. Plus the guy upstaging them has his ethnically diverse friends with him at all times.
“Thankfully it cleared up and we had a nice night, so … good job, Vince McMahon. You are the luckiest possible guy when it comes to outdoor events.”
Sure, I’d like to introduce you to Gary Bettmen.
During the Taker/Punk match, I’m pretty sure that the announcers said Taker got out of the GTS before he could hit it. That did look weird watching it at home so I could imagine how it looked from the crowd.
Danielle walked past me after the trips/lesnar match and asked if we were having fun. I said it was fun til inappropriate buzz cut theater and she laughed and hoped I enjoyed a worst
also wanna say that danielle looks SOOO BEATUIFUL~ in that pic ;D
I feel your pain about not geting the t-shirt you wanted. When I was at Wrestlemania XIX, there weren’t any Jericho t-shirts to be found despite the fact he was fighting HBK and Wrestlemania was in Seattle, which is very close to Canada. There was a very large Canadian contingent that had a frowny face that day.
Also, the HHH/Lesnar fight wasn’t that bad.
*puts on flame suit*
I wonder if Jill Thompson ever tells Punk stories about dropping acid in India with Grant Morrison?
As disappointed as I was in the last hour or so of Wrestlemania, at least nobody dumped poop all over the ex-girlfriend they emotionally abused. So that’s something.
Rock/Cena II was the figurative poop dump on the fans.
What broke my heart most was the lack of a Cenacanrana in the main event. That is my new favourite move.
I know this is WrestleMania’s Best and Worst and not Raw’s Best and Best but I could wait to show this picture from Raw:
OH MY GOD
I don’t think the tag title match was pointless. Ziggler proved Sunday and Monday that bad booking can be overcome with great performances and the right crowd. I was over the moon about that tag match.
I still think HBK/Taker WM25 > Punk/Taker WM29.
As much as I love Punk, it’s not even a contest. The WM 25 one was much better.
In my book, HBK/Taker WM25 might be the greatest Wrestlemania match ever.
Punk is second though.
Great article as usual and I can not wait for the review of raw!…. FAAAAN DANNNN GOOOO
Objectively it was pretty bad, but I enjoyed 3 things about HHH-Lesnar:
1. Brock being such an impossible goon filled the room I was in with laughter. Great non-wrestling fan comments including “He has no neck, it almost hurts to look at him” and “I think this man’s existence is a strong argument against the existence of God”
2. The 90 percent of the match that was Brock squashing HHH was more like a video game squash match than an actual one. My 8th grade create-a-wrestlers game plan was also “30 suplexs (assorted), foreign object, submission attempt”.
3. Brock is too dumb to move his arm after breaking HHH’s arm hold and gets locked in it again TWICE. Everyone I was watching with was just dying because it really seemed like Brock could be that dumb.
That’s kinda my current Create-a-Wrestlers game plan.
Always a joy to read this column. Can’t wait for the Raw best/worst tomorrow. I have already started to block out Trips/Brock from Mania so can someone answer something for me? I think Triple H kicked out of Brock’s finisher but did Brock get to kick out of the pedigree?
Yes. As bad as move by move sequences usually read, here’s at least one instance where it happened:
HHH set up the Pedigree. Brock lifted HHH into the fireman’s carry that precedes the F-5. Michaels ran in and tried his Superkick. Lesnar dropped HHH to the mat, caught the Sweet Chin Music and hit the F-5 on HBK. When Lesnar turned around, Triple H kicked Lesnar and grabbed the double underhooks again. Lesnar dropped to one knee. Triple H kept the underhooks When he stood up again, Triple H successfully dropped Lesnar on his face with the Pedigree. Lesnar kicked out.
I really enjoyed that sequence.
Very detailed, thank you blackhawksfan. I had wrestling nerd rage building thinking that Trips wouldn’t let Lesnar kick out of his finisher.
WELCOME TO JACK SWAGGER’S JEEP GRAND CHEROKEE!!!!!
Thank you Brandon. The laughing I am doing is out loud.
Brandon, not only do I always love your write ups, it was awesome to meet you this weekend. I understand your reasoning for not liking the Taker no-sell of the Anaconda Vise, but watching it on TV, it came across really amazing. One of those perfect combinations of camera angles and facial expressions.
It just wasn’t the same without Big Johnny.
Undertaker winning robbed us of another Living Colour live performance :-*(
Add me to the list of people who enjoyed Taker/Punk. The entrances alone were awesome, and the match was great on its own.
The only part that really sucked was my friend fast forwarding through Fandango’s entrance, all the while muttering “gay, lame, etc.”. I wanted to see the fourteen or so dancers and Fandango’s great entrance so badly. But hey, he paid for the event and invited me over, and I was too busy enjoying my Root Beer to really protest. Plus, I was more than vindicated last night thanks to the Crowd.
Not gonna lie, I am a 31 year old male who popped for the Little Mermaid reference. Good column, buddy.
Wish I could’ve enjoyed it with you guys! Maybe one day.
My son, who is 10 years old and probably the most diehard WWE fan, said something that surprised me….he asked if we could fast forward through the Rock/Cena match (we have DVR, but were watching the show live). I denied his request because we paid $70 for this, and we were going to “enjoy” every minute of the PPV. He said, “Please? This exact same match happened last year.” For being Cena’s target audience, he’s wearing them thin with his superman BS.
Honestly, I hope WM30 is Cena vs. Undertaker and then he can retire. It’s all that’s left for either of them at this point.
I think you’ll like Punk/Taker more when you watch it on video. It was really good. Best since HBK/Taker I.
I agree with everything stated here except for Punk/Taker. It was a great old school style Taker match IMO where he didnt have to suicide dive and kill himself, take a chairshot to the head and kill himself, 5 pedigrees to try and kill him and then be driven out of the arena because he got the victory and died. Ive seen some others say that maybe it didnt come across live, but it def came across on TV.
I also went to the bathroom during Bork/HHH. It wasnt “bad” per say, it was just… I dont know… Boring? Predictable? Obvious? Stale? Im trying to come up with adjectives other than synonyms for “bad” to describe it. Asskicker HHH is a TERRIBLE, HORRIBLE gimmick that should have never seen the light of day. I kind of get that they need to take Bork the destroyer down a notch, but, I dont know… I dont know how to do it. I thought that HHH was done last year after losing to Taker and I think there was no shame in going out like that, but I guess he still thinks he some game in the tank. Which maybe true, if he is willing to put someone over and not just kick up and comers in the balls when they come out for their scheduled match. What Im saying is EFFFF YOOUUUUUU HHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!
Watching the HoF now. Foley’s video gives me feels.
B — for all that is good and holy — DO NOT read the Smackdown spoilers or watch the show. I cannot stress this enough. I legitimately think it might be an Ark of the Covenant sort of situation.
I enjoyed Randy Orton taking the loss and getting punched in the face for doing so. With Ryback/Henry I found myself full of hope about the future of the WWE. In that match, they both looked strong and legit after the match and I hope they remember how to do that going forward. Plus, I’m just praying that Danielson gets a ten minute match next year and I was happy to see him get the pin. Fandango and Jericho need a rematch, they were kinda sloppy together. Del Rio/Swagger, I still think Swagger is missing something so I didn’t care too much for that match. I never thought that Punk was going to beat Undertaker so I was pretty bored and not surprised by the finish. Wrestling like any TV show or movie needs suspense so I feel the streak should be over because I don’t see anyone beating Taker at Wrestlemania. HHH just needs to go away. Just tired of the random matches with CM Punk, Awesome Truth, twice with Brock and Kevin Nash in a ladder match. Rock/Cena 2, let’s hope that when part 3 comes out that they have a no dq match or a submission match so it’ll be more interesting.
Gee, Brandon. Sorry I love you and find the southern things you do endearing. I AM THE WORST.
Totally drawing a dick on your face at Trios.
(and in case anyone is wondering, those fries were really good)
Punk’s ring gear put that match over for me so hard
I got a Best? My Wrestlemania Moment>>>> Zack Ryder’s
Still a bit peeved that there was no 3MB appearance
The Best of The Best And Worst Of WWE WrestleMania 29 Live: “… he just lost. He could not finish the food he was given.”
“Worst: Where The F**k Is My Rhodes Scholars Match?”
They couldn’t have thrown this on the card and finished up one of the other matches up quicker?? smh
I was one of those girrls in the Forever Team Undertaker hoodie. Thrs. Three t
hings: 1-I’m 24, hardly a teenager anymore. 2
I was one of those girls in the hoodies. I am 24, not a teenager. Excuse the hell out of me for getting enthusiastic about something without obsessing over every small detail. I find it f**king hilarious that, rather than continue the debate then and there, you decided to take to the web and become a keyboard warrior. What’s the matter… afraid a six-foot-three blond girl might not only know more about wrestling than you,but also kick your ass? Grow up, motherf***et.
Remember when I said I enjoy reading about the interactions between “regular” WWE fans and WithLeather readers? Of course not, my posts are really long.
If you are not a person who was actually in the shuttlebus and are merely doing this for you own entertainment, thank you. If you were actually in the shuttlebus, I want this settled either by Tout war or by having both you and Brandon as very special guests on one of those mandible claw podcasts.
What’s the aggressively anti-sexist version of “Jane, you ignorant slut”?
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