Like all serial killers, Star Wars’ Kylo Ren kept a creepy memento collection

Anyone who has seen Star Wars: The Force Awakens knows Kylo Ren is not all there. Whether through a neglected childhood, a misplaced sense of entitlement, or just plain old genetic bad luck, the man formerly known as Ben is a loose canon with a lot of power. Obsessed with Darth Vader and egged on by Snoke, Kylo Ren is the poster child for Chaotic Evil.

He”s just as likely to choke you to death as he is to try futilely to connect with you on a human level. Wherever the whims take him. From spending his free time crafting a helmet in honor of his idol to actually fishing Vader”s helmet out of the fire on Endor (or wherever it ended up), Ren loves his Pop-Pop. So if you assumed the ashes that surrounded Darth Vader”s helmet were either an aesthetic choice or (like me) they were the scooped up remains of Anakin Skywalker, you weren”t alone.

But you were wrong. The reality is so much creepier. As reported by EW, director J.J. Abrams confirmed those ashes are people.

“The backstory is, that that table has the ashes of the enemies he”s killed,” Abrams says. “That moment was actually shot for, and meant to be used in, the scene where he was talking to the Vader mask.”

That”s right. Kylo Ren is breathing in the ashes of his dead enemies every time he talks to Pop-Pop. Do you think he has First Order troopers incinerate the bodies or does he need the tactile pleasure of doing it himself?