Jon Stewart is very good at grilling people the way few serious journalists do. He famously took down Tucker Carlson during the Bush II era, effectively banishing him to the wilderness for over a decade (only for him to rise again). After the economic crash of 2008, he eviscerated Jim Cramer with surgical precision. Now he’s taking on a political leader partly responsible for anti-trans policies.
Stewart talked to Leslie Rutledge, attorney general of Arkansas, whose state enacted a ban on gender-affirming health care for children in 2021. In a six-minute excerpt from the interview, aired on the most recent episode of The Problem with Jon Stewart, the former Daily Show host calmly dismantled Rutledge’s arguments. For one thing, he points out that the decision “overrides” guidelines laid out by health care professionals. Rutledge, meanwhile, simply claims that some experts thought otherwise, though she couldn’t even name the groups that said so.
At one point, Rutledge mentions that the doctors that supported the ban claimed that “98 percent of young people” who have gender dysphoria “are able to move past” it once they “have the help that they need.”
“Wow,” Stewart replied. “That’s an incredibly made-up figure.” He added, “That doesn’t comport with any of the studies or documentation that exist from these medical organizations.”
He proceeded to slowly unravel Rutledge’s — and the entire GOP’s — argument, pointing out that they follow health guidelines with other issues, but for some reason not those pertaining to trans people.
Stewart has a history of preparing for hard-hitting interviews, and his expertise was met with praise.
Jon Stewart shows us all how it’s done. Go into an interview prepared, confident in your research and deliver your points. If I ever give a course on interview techniques, this will be exhibit A. https://t.co/7ADVMR0mBq
— Terry Reith (@TerryReithCBC) October 7, 2022
Jon Stewart. Just great interviewing right here. Doesn't back down and confronts her on her statistics that she had no reference for. https://t.co/bVYctXsSYQ
— Anthony D'Agostino (@ADagostinoTV) October 7, 2022
Others, however, argued that this kind of interviewing — calmly and forcefully questioning those in power, exposing the weakness of their arguments — should be the norm, not the exception.
Why are people (rightly) praising this @jonstewart interview?
1) He was prepared.
2) He called out her lies with facts.
3) He did follow ups.This is basic political journalism. The fact it's seen as a breath of fresh air reveals everything broken with access journalism. https://t.co/eHDDUAViMO
— Wajahat Ali (@WajahatAli) October 7, 2022
But it’s just another example of Stewart using his clout — and his relentlessness — to do what those in power won’t.
You can watch the clip in the video above and the full episode of The Problem with Jon Stewart on Apple TV+.