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Tonight, on the With Spandex WWE Raw open discussion thread:
As Raw General Manager Mick Foley continues to form his teams to battle SmackDown LIVE at Survivor Series, WWE Universal Champion Kevin Owens and Chris Jericho bring their vaunted friendship to Glasgow, Scotland, where a standoff with U.S. Champion Roman Reigns and Seth Rollins surely awaits. Will these Superstars collide when Monday night’s hottest show takes place for the very first time in “Dear Green Place”? (via WWE.com)
Our five-point preview:
1. Tonight’s Raw comes to you from Glasgow, Scotland-
Sorry, Glasgow, Scotland.
2. That means this event will be taped on Monday afternoon, which means most of us will have either read what happened or purposely avoided reading what happened by the time the show aired. For the benefit of the live thread, let’s pretend like we all didn’t, and that we’re watching it for the first time.
3. Also, anybody know what they’ll put on the stage to make the set look “Scotland?” British Raws always have double decker buses on the stage or whatever. Maybe they’ll just put Enzo and Big Cass in kilts.
4. The final member of Raw’s Survivor Series team will be named, and if it’s anybody but Seth Rollins we’ll be shocked. Please note that I’m writing this before show results have happened, so if it’s Curtis Axel, I apologize.
5. The teams for the tag team and women’s Survivor Series matches will also be decided, at least in part. Dana Brooke vs. Team Smackdown, 5-on-1, let’s do it.
+1 your favorite comments from tonight’s open discussion thread and if there are enough of them — pre-taped shows are usually pretty deserted — we’ll include 10 of the best in tomorrow’s Best and Worst of Raw. Enjoy the show!
next week: reigns punches jericho, who crashes into the ropes, accidentally lionsaults owens
the first 69 items on the list are just tacks, individually named
I like to imagine Kevin Owens and Chris Jericho sending Sami Zayn off in a rocket to Smackdown as Raw implodes around them.
All while a bad ska cover of John Williams’ Superman theme plays in the background.
I think i would watch that on an endless loop
+1 to everyone here for making this dumpster fire at least watchable tonight.
I’ve seen a lot of stupid endings, Charlie Brown. But Roman hitting a Superman punch so hard that he falls out of the ring to allow Owens to accidentally pin Jericho is the stupid browniest.
Unless….Roman did that on purpose and is playing the long game and planning that the breakup of JeriKO will be in his best interest to win the title at Mania or something.
It’s a fusion of the Armageddon Hell in a Cell finish and the HHH/Austin 3 stages of hell finish, which were both perfectly cromulent
Stupid…probably, but I still enjoyed it immensely.
Not quite the ending i imagined happening…
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
That was a beautiful and creative finish.
Beautiful Popup Powerbomb to pedigree counter. Randy Orton is proud of you Seth.
I guess this one also ends with so and so just pinned the champ.
When Seth Rollins gets so mad that he powerbombs a m*thaf*cka into aNOTHER M*thaF*cka!
Why was Strowman just laying there? What??
aaaand Jericho is out for five months.
Kevin Owens. Hero.
“These five guys don’t get along so lets put them in a match against each other. That will build team chemistry. It worked for Sheamus and Cesaro!”- WWE logic
Make Lucha Underground Great Again Also
Now THAT was Jeri-KO making heel moves. And stupid ones at that. You DEFINITELY let Reigns and Rollins Double Powerbomb Strowman through a table.
I appreciated the alt-finisher frenzy
Yes Corey Brawn on team Raw does actually make it a handicap match.
“I HOPE SMACKDOWN LIVE IS WATCHING THIS!” Yeah, they’re watching Team Raw destroy themselves. Guaranteeing they won’t be at 100%. Great job….
I’m loving the forced teamwork to actually take down Strowman.
You know…Braun going apeshit on his own team forcing Reigns, Rollins, and Ambrose to go full Shield gestalt and reform like Devastator…or Voltron to take him down would be the moment of the year.
He is incapable of acknowledging the moment.
And Cole will ruin it by yelling, “ONE TIME ONLY” like he did the last time it looked like they were going to reform The Shield.
If Owens somehow pop-up powerbombs Strowman, I’ll forgive half this show
I would rather see Owens vs Styles, Reigns vs Ziggler, New Day vs Slater/Ryno, and Charlotte vs Becky as the card for Survivor Series. And then use non champs for the traditional match.
Maybe next year. Maybe next year.
THIS
@TheGunslinger Nice. All of those matches do sound very interesting and fresh. Wish you were booking.
I would be into the SmackDown guys being all polite to Byron and Byron not knowing what to do about that…Then, I remembered that JBL is on the SmackDown announce team.
And an announce team vs announce team in a fight to the death.
Bliss vs Lynch? Hyped!
I’m hoping WWE still thinks Scotland and Ireland are basically the same place and run with the “Champion loses the title in their Hometown” trope.
Battle of the Baes!
Sees the Head&Shoulders commercial and once again wonders how Manolo made it to be such a well adjusted young man having Sofia “Tip your hat to God” Vergara for a mother.
“Crooked Shane O’ Mac and Lyin’ Daniel Bryan don’t have what it takes to run SmackDown Live. That’s why I will build a wall around WWE and Lucha Underground will pay for it!”
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“IT’S #MAGA MAGGLE!”
1 Make Raw Great Again!
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The fact that you made LU pay for the rule made me choke on my drink. Well played
No Seth, find a ladder down there.
I love the announce team making fun of Ellsworth, a wrestler who would get more of a positive reaction from tonight’s RAW crowd than anyone not named Bayley, Sami, Sasha, or Noam.
Owens and Rollins fighting in the background outside the ring as Roman Reigns stands in the middle of the ring pretty much sums up Vince’s outlook on the roster.
*deep sigh* +1
James Ellesworth CHARACTER?
You’re breaking Kayfabe, Cole.
This here is a wrestling ring, we serve hard punches for men who wanna get punched and we don’t need no James Ellsworth Characters giving the place atmosphere. “It’s a RAWderful Life” coming soon from wwe studios
State of RAW: It just made the list.
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So Braun gets the annual count-out elimination at SS, correct?
As Ziggler isn’t even in the match…that’s some serious spite
Actually they may just try to annihilate all of Ziggler’s momentum by having him be speared to oblivion as spite for that time he won the match for his team and had the love of the world.
Corbin’s getting speared into oblivion as first elimination
The traditional double count-out elimination. But will it be with Bray or Baron Corbin?
I’m guessing you may be right…dammit
Bryon: Will Daniel Bryan and Shane McMahon accept the invitation to come to RAW?
Well, you did just advertise a State of the WWE debate.
No….please….Cole….do go on with the traffic cone legend. It’s not like creative hasn’t wasted 90 minutes already tonight.
90+
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So does this mean that we get to see a highlight reel of Daniel Bryan on Talking Smack? Because that would be amazing.
State of the WWE Universe: Depression
State of the WWE Universe? Oh dear god no….
If the debate doesn’t feature Stephanie stalking Daniel around the ring making angry faces, I don’t know what we’re doing this for
+1 WRONG
+1 Nasty woman
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Because debates always go over well on wrestling shows
Yeah, that’s sure what I’m tuning in for.
What exactly do either brand gain from winning at Survivor Series?
What do they gain? Not having to come up with anything new or exciting.
Bragging rights. No, wait, different show.
The IC Title if you’re Raw
Nothing if you’re SD
Same logic as having a ratings war when the shows do not compete for rating.
State of the WWE Universe – WTF?
Sami wins at Survivor Series and then defects to Smackdown. Calling it now.
God no….I don’t need another Depressed Dolph storyline where he contemplates retirement after losing the belt for smackdown
Ruaev should just show up before Sami. It IS an open challenge after all.
That’s what I’m saying…
11/07/2016 Sami Zayn won a big match on Raw. NEVER FORGET
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Stop. Saying. Fantasy. Warfare.
Rusev is really close to passing Cesaro as the most underused wrestler.
Was that supposed to be a Helluva Kick?
Nevermind, that first angle was weird
Dunn is in the back telling Vince to flag that tape and they will play back Lana saying America like the time they made fun of my precious angel Lillian for saying Grammy Award Winning instead of Slammy Award Winning.
I still have a crush on Lillian. That said, Jojo is a more than worthy successor. And Mark’s memory does serve him correctly.
True story, I had a huge crush on Lillian back in the day and was going to a live RAW so I made a sign that said “Sing to me, Lillian!”, my dad took it and held it up in between matches during a commercial break and Lillian pointed at him and gave him a thumbs up and laughed. I spent the next 2 hours mad that he stole my chance with Lillian….I was 22 at the time.
@LUNI_TUNZ if memory serves me correctly, she’s on a leave of absence to care for her ailing father
This reminds me, what happened to Lillian Garcia?
Byron: Rusev is in a constant state of irritation.
Just like us, Rusev must be forced to listen to the announce team.
Just read Foley’s long “Please don’t vote for Trump” post on Facebook. I knew better than to read any comments though.