Of course we spoke on basketball, but more specifically, we discussed him inheriting the Bad Bad mantra laid out by Isiah Thomas and the Pistons back in the day, Shaq and Kobe rapping, old school versus new school, and more.
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Dime: A lot of people like to correlate basketball and hip-hop as being synonymous. What similarities do you think there are between the two?
Royce da 5’9″: The competitive nature definitely sticks out in my mind. Everybody out there is trying to win. Each individual is trying to put up more points. Each individual is trying to put each other on while playing in a team atmosphere. Hip-hop culture itself has completely consumed everything involved in entertainment. When you think about basketball like the way those guys dress; I don’t know if you notice but people care about how you dress these days.
Dime: Yeah I know. The whole swag thing is out here. (Laughs)
Royce: (Laughs) Yeah, yeah, yeah. Everybody is worried about how much swag Dwyane Wade has. Hip-Hop itself, the culture, the way that it’s going you could always see the effect that it has on basketball.
Dime: I know you were saying before that you were an avid fan of old school basketball. Back in the day you had Jordan, Magic and Bird. What would you say is the biggest contrast from back then to today’s game?
Royce: Wow. That’s a good question. It obviously has developed in one way that I haven’t been able to figure out yet. The pace is different. Everything is different. But, in my personal opinion, there still isn’t a player that could compare to Jordan. The reason why I say that is that you have Kobe. You have LeBron. It’s kind of branch off Jordan’s style. You ever watched that kid Adrien Broner. The kid fights just like Floyd Mayweather. Exactly like him, but he’s the most exciting new fighter. It’s like Drake. Drake is a phenomenon. He took pieces of different people’s styles and he kind of enhanced it to what people wanna hear today. That doesn’t necessarily make him better than a Kanye, or better than a Jay-Z. It’s kind of like the same thing with basketball. Jordan had such an impact on the culture. Kobe, I feel like he might be Jordan’s illegitimate son or something. (Laughs) He’s basically, to me, is Jordan reincarnated. He’s great. I mean he’s great. He’s not in Jordan’s shadow in my eyes. He’s accomplished enough to stand on his own two. But Jordan is still the greatest.
Dime: Obviously you’re from Detroit, and I could definitely say you inherited the 80’s Detroit Pistons Bad Boy mentality that featured Isiah Thomas, Dennis Rodman, Bill Laimbeer and Joe Dumars. How much of an effect did their game have on you coming up?
Royce: Man I used to watch Zeke and how fearless he was. I used to look at the way Mahorn used to be dogging niggas. I used to look at that man and go to the park after that and want to pick fights. (Laughs) I would be like “I ain’t foul you!” They would be like, “You fouled me. Shot.” I would be like “That ain’t no shot man.” I used to be on that bullshit. I used to be pumped on that level. They won with heart. Don’t get me wrong. Jordan came and kicked our asses. But still a lot of people forgot how Joe D locked him up. Like, if you could hold Jordan to 24 points, you locked him up. If you could get him to shoot under 50 or 40 percent, that’s locking him up. You could only hope to contain him because you couldn’t stop him. It was just a good contrast between all of the players. Nobody stepped out of their role or character. My man Rodman did what he had to do. I mean, there were a couple times he shot some threes, and I would be like, “Is this dude on drugs or something.” (Laughs) But everybody pretty much played their roles. That’s why I think it worked back then.
Dime: One thing I love is how rappers incorporate their punch lines within the game of basketball. What would you say is your favorite basketball punchline and why?
Royce: Well I could almost guarantee that it probably came from Jay-Z or Joe Budden because they constantly come up with the sports punchlines. There’s not one that sticks out in my head. I’m not really good at remembering things. I’m just slowly getting my memory back. (Laughs) My memory is fucking terrible. But, Joey has whole lot of sports references and it’s not even just basketball. Even like the Pujols line when he said, “A lot of us are Angels with Pujols bread.” Like, I don’t follow baseball like that. I was like, “What the fuck is he talking about.” I had to ask him, “What the fuck are you saying?” When he explained it to me I was like, “Oh. That motherfucker.” (Laughs)
Dime: Now, my biggest gripe is when I see basketball players pick up the mic. I need you to be honest with me and tell me if you had to pick between Shaq and Kobe as being the fifth member of Slaughterhouse, who would you choose and why?
Royce: Well you know what? It’s sort of hard for me to answer that because I never really heard Kobe like that. You know I didn’t really hear him.
Dime: I mean he had a little flow. When you’re free one day with the guys, watch Kobe and Tyra Banks because they hadae live performance before. I mean, Shaq did have a song with Biggie though.
Royce: Yeah Shaq could actually rhyme to me when he was doing the rap thing. He actually sold some records didn’t he?
Dime: Yeah he went platinum a couple times. (Laughs)
Royce: Yeah it’s definitely hard for me to answer that question in fairness because I never really heard Kobe like that. But Shaq was nice. If I had to choose based off my own personal knowledge, I’d have to say Shaq. You know because Shaq was able to flow a little bit. I mean, he had the punchlines. He sold a couple records. I would have to go with Shaq on experience. He probably got a little bit more experience in the studio and live performances.