Leave your thoughts on J. Cole’s sophomore album, “Born Sinner.” Did it live up to your expectations? Is it better than his first album?
Album of the Year
it would be dope if this was 1995.. i respect the artistry all day, but its 2 easy to impress these hip hop heads! very easily formula! its 2013 now, i need music that pushes the envelope like yeezus!
J cole makes depressing ass music, the best rappers are always ignorant and confident j cole definitely lacks in that area…..he needs to put the same effort in his hooks as he does in his verses ..and stop talking through the perpective of a women all the time. Average album when considering kendricks work, drakes last two, future’s was more artistic, kanye continues to grow, jigga bout to drop, not to mention the artist on the come up (schoolboy, joey bad ass) and the artist of old still dropping (killer mike, nas)
^ Did you just mention Future? Wtf
Waaay better than the first. Dope ass album
futures creativity towards hip hop cant be questioned, he almost has many hits as cole has in one album
@spot….c’mon son how you say J.cole is emotional and say his work was average compared to drakes last two and that nigga had duets all through both albums??? And I like both drake & cole
floppin man every year shit just gets worse i’m sorry j. cole is so boring this dude is the male rap version of taylor swift I mean fuck get some different production or something between this French Montana and Kanye the worst shit I’ve heard this decade
How fuking dare you say that lame ass dude future is more artistic than J Cole…are you dumb or what I mean damn future is just another “rapper” that drops a few trending songs and then he will be gone J Cole will be around for some years ill put money on it
only real n*ggas can relate
future is creative alright…took a lot of creativity to bring t-pain back after DOA
Its alright, people get gassed on anything j cole does, he is a dope rapper not a very good artist. Alot of room for growth, not one impressive album under his resume sorry
Y’all niggas is bugging Born Sinner is beyond dope
hottest nigga out
Now it’s clear young jermaine is the best mc out: hand’s
down flow water can’t drown.
This album is by far the best of the year! J.Cole is putting out real hip hop! It amazes me that some ppl don’t recognize it ! Then they put an artist like FUTUREthat is good for singles above Cole! Smh this generation is lucky that we have Cole, Lamar and Drake. Lol without them by far hip hop in on our generation would have continued to remained a dead. You have to accept Cole for who he is… Just like u have to accept drake as he is and Ye’. You don’t have to like Cole but please come up with better reasons than he is always complaining or coming frm the perspective of a woman in his rhymes.
@CSI future and t-pain are 2 totally different artists…future doesnt always use auto tune, and he writes r and b without tune in it, and they use different melodies, etc., etc… i kno yall dont like when ppl give southern artist credit but when you go to both shows and its the same amount of ppl at both singing word for word at both, u have to ATLEAST respect wat future is doing…HE WROTE A RIHANNA RECORD PEOPLE….
@spot was right when he said he has more hits on one album then cole…
tony montana (was hot before drake was on it, so dont say even say it…)
magic (before t.i.)
same damn time
turn on the lights
Neva End (before kelly)
features: bitches love, wrote racks on racks (wheres YC?), “love” for rihanna, bugatti, uoeno, squares, etc.,etc,
sold “aint no way around it” and “bitches & bottles” to dj drama for his single ..
who dat ..
cant get enough ft trey songz
nobodys perfect ft missy
crooked smile (its new, bt its a single)
HE DID PRODUCE ALL OF HIS SINGLES, gotta give him credit for that, thats dope, bt its the same amount as future(1album) ….cole with 2 albums worth of work
its pretty comparable tho, im not a big cole fan bt i will go give this album a full listen and see if i relate bt his music seems more geared to women who grew up in the 90’s (is it just me?) lol…yea, even more emo than drake, bcuz drake is more geared to “non confrontational males” his words bt …..well they both are i guess sooo *shrugs* idk yall b the judge ..im out
wow, we gotta future groopie here !
aye but seriously where is YC? hahaha aite im out
alot of potential in hip hop right now tho lets see whats happens bt the last thing i wanna say is
FUTURE WILL HAVE A LONGER CAREER THAN 2CHAINS STOP COMPARING THEM
Dope as hell!! Havent even listened to the full album yet and I already LOVE IT. I never usually comment on any of this stuff but c’mon son we are living in a generation where we lack quality in hip hop. People like future, trinidad james, 2chainz get praised and glorified. There is no real message behind the music, no substance. No one can say Future isnt talented because he has some major accomplishments BUT what can be said is that he is NOT A lyricist. Hes another artist that will have some success but lets face it his music is dated. Cole has lyrical substance and his music will stand the test of time. Jay saw him self in cole when he signed him. Know what real hip hop is people and stop getting caught up with hit singles. In ten years future will probably be a producer that was once a rapper with hit records. Cole will always be a respected authentic hip hop artist.
I already purchased it on itunes the free stream got me when I got to browse the album. Moving his album up might have been the smartest thing he could have done. A lot of people is going to buy his album the same time they’re purchasing Kanye’s.
@silence you know 2 chainz titi boi been in the rap game for years. Search DTP golden grain album. Future won’t make it to 2015. He’s wack. He’ll change his name to past soon
first of all this question should not apply to listeners of wayne, future or 2chainz.this is not for u.if u know u hiphop, than u’ll say potential best album.nice album cole.not that gay drake shit, talking men out they missery typa shit.u know the type that can’t wait to buy the cd,to ride with they dumb bitch. this shit is for us,coz we wanna wear those timbz puff a lala give the mc he’s props.COLE
The fact that some of you are comparing Future to J.Cole is exactly what’s wrong with hip hop. Cole is MC first and foremost, his bars are deep, he speaks on topics we can relate to he has his own sound, produces the majority of his songs and he’s REAL, He’s not out here acting as if he’s something he’s not. He’s kept his features to a minimum to on this album which is also refreshing. Future has a few good tracks/singles but in my opinion he’s a slightly better version of T-Pain. I’ve listened to Born Sinner and I think it’s a good album, definitely better than his first which was an average album.
yall niggas is buggin right now, why is future even in the conversation??!!! who started that shit?? let be serious, future in a year time will be gone, artistic??? not even close, 2 chainz is ass, and trinidad james is even worse (that nigga is still riding the wave off of all gold everything) for niggas to say j cole is boring and complains alot are foolish for the simple reason those 3 niggasi just named talk bout the same ish over and over again….future gets in his emotions just as much as drake does, and the other two can barely keep a flow and talk about the typical money bitches and jewelry ish over and over again…i rather listen to something i can relate too and understand than the typical nonsense of todays hiphop…i still cant believe niggas is talking bout future right now as if his career has longevity or sumthin
@silence, ill give future his props on writing certain songs and having some hits, but artists that make hits after hits after hits in a short peroid of time lose steam, jay-z didnt even have that many hits in one period of time, but throughout his career he has had a spread of hits that not only kept of with the time period but had replay value, future’s music doesnt have replay value like that, in 5 years from now turn out the lights and same damn time are gonna be treated just like party like a rockstar lol
He played it too safe. Its aight, im not with the backpack rap like that. He need to experiment like Kendrick.
“in 5 years turn out the lights and same damn time are gonna be treated just like party like a rockstar” AMEN
J cole should’ve never signed to anyone he changed after warm up
you are ignorant, he signed before releasing the warm up
I’m about halfway through and it’s coming off as Cole world: the B sides. Same content, similar beats, a somewhat varied flow which is more than welcome. More talk about girls. He must think he’s Slug with all the girl songs. It’s not hard to enjoy, just annoying to hear the same thing. It makes sense since it’s only been 9 months.
You put 2 and 2 together, Cole here 4eva! #ColeWorld #910
you gotta feel cole to like his music i dont blame those who think he boring or lame yal just dont think the way we do
was excited for the album but I don’t think this album is anywhere near cole world. album isn’t a flop but I think kendrick lamars album just fuked the curve up for all albums releasing this year IMO.
Poppin. Its a good album. The only thing bad you can say about it is that it sounds like a continuation from his first album and he didn’t really grow much as an artist.
J.cole Born Sinner…Best music ever made,yet know that he produced like the whole album,he spits the truth,I know the truth hurts that’s why they don’t feel it!!!
No one said Future is a better “rapper” then cole……Future just put out a more original creative body of work that should be expected from an “artist”….Cole did not surprise or show the abilitly to make certain growth that you would expect from an artist when you consider it a classic….classic my ass. Average!…. the warm up was refreshing when it came out and after this is definitely give him credit for retaining alot of his fans….but this n*gga dropped an average album with 0 classic songs on it…if his is a classic then kendick lamar and nas last albums are wha?
If his album is a classic where are the classic songs? there are 0 classic songs on this album, He didnt show growth as an artist that you expect to see …if this is a classic wha is nas and kendricks last albums?….he deffinitly has the ability to retain loyal fans though ….Cole if your reading this you let nas down again…stop takingg about lyrics when comparing rappers its f*cking 2013…they arnt doing poetry it takes more then just spoken words to contribute to the body of work…cole is lacking in multiple areas he is lucky to get his ish put up against kanye
Are you fucking serious homie?! Hits don’t make a good album. Future being in this conversation is an abomination. He has songs you can play in a club when you feel ignorant but as far as content this dude has none. Plus he sounds like he has fucking down syndrome. The ones bumping Future are the same ones who think Gucci Mane is actually lyrical, no respect for you bum ass dudes. And @spot you are prolly one of the people who thinks Soulja Boy is dope. You are a fucking idiot point blank, lyrics are one of the few things that should be talked about when comparing rappers. The beats move it along but a good beat will mask idiotic rap and make faggots like you bump that shit. Lyrics are the most important, hip hop should be something you can relate to and feel.
Which this album is by the way… villuminati is nasty
And one more thing… Yall throw classic around way too much, on day one of Illmatic, The Chronic, any Beatles albums, any Elvis albums do you think people were running around like damn homie this shit is classic. NO. They were like this is some dope shit and time made them classics because of replay value and message. You know nothing.
listen bro, ive been following tity boi since ludacris had his mtv diary in tittys mama’s house, and used to come to chicago to stay with shawnna…..i know how long he has been in the game (how long has he been on top tho?) bt his gimmick that got him HOT is getting played out bt we will see
“….Cole if your reading this you let nas down again…” – @spot
lmao you could only mention villuminati i mean atleast come with 5 out of the 16 tracks!? nice intro and a good song but that track isnt nothing compared to 80% songs on yeezus …..gucci mane and future comparison is just stupid nd mentioning soulja boy clearly explains your name……when comparing future and j cole i was only looking at the body of work. and his ground breaking work with a fresh sound and talent but lets dead that debate because again only real n*ggas can relate.
albums this year that will be better then coles: Kanye, jigga, drake, pusha, school boy, joey bad ass, gibbs, big krit and drum roll please ” Future Hendrix” even earl sweatshirt and wale might out shine
and how did i forget Statik Selectah….all you F*ck boys that seem to no so much bout hip hop how come he wasnt mentioned in todays release
I was definitely was expecting a much better album he only has a couple classic j Cole songs like “Rich Niggas and “Land of the snakes” The rest were decent or below. Probably will be better than Yeezus but i was expecting so much more. I dont think at all it is better that the warm up or Friday night lights but it is head to head with sideline story.
man im sorry j. cole is so boring if he not quote me the hottest line from either album. and I know someone gonna say oooh hot lines don’t make a good album then what the fuck are we listening to rap music for no one will be looking for this cd in a year