Does Jay-Z selling a million of his albums to Samsung stop him from touching his fans at all?
Of course LL is correct… great for Jay but in the long run? Is there a buzz about this album? Plat but who cares?
LOL…LL still aggy for sure. However it’s true, I would rather hear that a million ppl went out and bought it purposefully. #respect
Still a GOAT business move for Jay tho.
Ah LL You mad? your album flopped now you hating on the goat stop it
the reason he is right is because of this real life example:
I pay for a family plan with Sprint; Myself, my mom and sister all have Galaxies, I’m clearly the only one who downloaded the album because I listen to Jay haha so ofcourse everyone who has a Galaxy didn’t get the album. I think that’s common sense so no argument there. LL’s point is good because the format of the phone version does suck (it’s more like a stream) but I haven’t gone out and purchased the physical CD, I just ripped the stream version from my phone to mp3s.
In the end this was a great business move to ensure 1 million records were sold in this age of illegal downloading, so you can’t blame Jay or any artist who wouldn’t have jumped at this opportunity.
you do know could’ve downloaded the album from the app right and not just streamed it?
THIS IS À STUPID DEBAT ” IF IM A JAYZ FAN AND I WANT TO HEAR MCHG I CAN EITHER BUY IT OR DOWNLOAD IT OR STREAM IT . THE MUSIC WILL KEEP ON LIVING BUT LL OLD ASS BEEN DEAD . HE SHOULD STUCK TO ACTIN . #newrules stick to what u know
I believe Jay Z sold a million to samsung to show that numbers arent shit now.. He was simply making a statement..
Y you MAD ?
Ask LL did his shit connect with fans. Accidental racists and that she so ratchet record sure connected with fans
BY THE WAY IM ALL THE WAY DOWN IN THE JUNGLE OF AFRICA AND I’M BUMPING HOLY GRAIL , SO LIKE A SAID FASLE DEBATE BITCH ! #newrules
Jay Z is NOT the goat
Jay-Z is expected to sell 500 thousand in his first week in being available to the people… lol. He is selling albums to the people and i’m sure a million people are going to end up purchasing this album. LL hasn’t liked Jay-Z since he was Pres. at DefJam.
Capitalism at its finest. Big corporations are buying elections and creating powerful organizations (ie Tea Party) with money, are voices and opinions are being bought out, the people can’t compete, Jay is just playing his cards well. But i do agree with LL. Jay Z is not the GOAT, check yourself youngins
I been waiting for this battle forever. Ll BEEN throwing shots as so has j.. even way back to thr blueprint days.
HATER!!! WHo cares what this dude has to say, when is the last time this dude plat???
Niggas is just mad that jay found a new way in a declining market and they didnt.
Oh and by the way jay still bout to move 400k his 1st week so whats this clown talking bout??? Jay= G.O.A.T.
@ sirtain cancer, Jay, and jaz-o both beat ll way back in the day at a open mic contest in queens, jay came in 2nd place tho
One thing LL didnt mention is that Its a big step to see someone guarantee/insure that they profit
instead of having to wait to recoup. We all know jay will go platinum anyway so this is obviously an
example of him opening a door. Not only that walmart isnt a phone company. Alot harder to do
a deal like this with a phone company. So touching the people isnt the same case when it
comes to a jay z album.
@Midas . Thats interesting. I know dmx and busta battled hov but i didnt know LL did to. Wow
LL cool j looks like a fool talking that mess he talking. You suppose to be a hip hop icon instead you looking like a bitter, sour, tell why you mad MC. When was the last time you can honestly say with the people. I never hear your music being played now. Hov came out in 96′ and he still on top pissing on you. Man if anything you should embrace him. You ask yourself how much did you sell on your last album first opening week? Then ask yourself did you connect with the people. You disconnected from the fans since you got into the movie roles, hey lover hey lover hey lover, man niggas ain’t bumping that shit no more, they bumping that Fukwitmeyouknowigotit
ya’ll jay dick riders need to chill…LL isn’t being a “hater”…if he was just speaking ignorantly saying MCHG and jay-z was trash or something that would be a different story…he’s just giving his honest opinion, and he was very respectful about it. He even acknowledged at the end of the video that he thought it was good business and a smart move. He makes a good point though. You can choose to agree or disagree with it…smh.
the thing is jay still gonna sell 1 million physical copies of the album as well. ppl like myself heard the album, then went to purchase it. in the past i might not have gone to purchase, but this album is so tough i had to get myself a copy. i think thats why jayz made such a good album cuz he knew the masses would get it for free and once they hear it, they would buy it.
no disrespect to yeezus, but had that been out for a week or so before the album dropped, i might’ve passed on it. maybe.
LL is the old goat, but jayz is doing what LL did, and not having a fan base dominated by females like LL did. LL found a way to continue to sell records later in his career by catering to females and not connecting with his true fan base, men. so if he could find a way to keep pushing units, why criticize jay for finding a way to push units? these 2 careers are legendary tho for the amount of time they keep dropping albums.
Wow… dickriding is really rapid around these parts, and they say gays don’t have no rights.
Naw but seriously though dude isn’t hating, he was asked a question and he answered it. He’s telling the truth actually. As an artist and someone who loves the art, your main goal is to make sure that your music connects with your fans, and one of the ways of measuring that was by looking at actual sales figures, which is why I guess billboard didn’t count them. Now anybody could have their friends and family go out and buy their album and still go platinum without us as fans having any type of involvement.
but u see that logic is flawed already. why would samsung or any other company purchase 1 million copies of wale’s album, or meek mill album, or mac miller album? thats not a good business move cuz the chances are very low of getting your money back.
but if a company wants to purchase 1 million copies of drake’s album, that makes total sense, cuz we all know 1 million ppl will buy that album guaranteed. so to me its no different than checking someone credit before approving a loan. some rappers have bad credit, jayz, drake, eminem etc have great credit.
This is where the confusion comes in. You’re looking at from a business standpoint, and from a business standpoint it’s a great idea in which jay deserves his props, but from an artistic standpoint it’s like he took a shortcut. We all know he would of went platinum in two or three weeks but he didn’t want that. He wanted to do what no artist has done before and that was to go plat before it even came out, so he sold it to Samsung, he even bragged about it. But what me and ll was getting at is that it’s the fan’s decision to see if his album was purchase worthy and should it go platinum.
@ cosign County of Kings
And is LL cool J slow ? Jay is about to push over 400 K in his first week. That’s touching a whole lot of people.
I also heard couple songs of the album when it leaked and still purchased it on iTunes. Why ? Because I knew it’s an album that needed to be listened to in its entirety to be truly appreciated. If an album is good, regardless I will still buy it.
ll is disconnected. nobody is dialing that number anymore.
I don’t think LL was hating. He was just stating his opinion. & I think it still did touch h his fans. You didn’t get the album just for having a galaxy. Ppl intentionally downloaded the app & were the first to do it
IN ADDITION TO 1.3 MILLION TO SAMSUNG
Why are you worried about jay’s fans ( people had the will to download the app and get it)
Some of that millie were fans, sone where new audience, There was awareness and anticipation
But why is uncle L bitter , is it because It’s 2013 and
99% of YOUR fans don’t exist?
1. How many artists sell 500k total nowadays, let alone in a week? So Jay sold that on top of the app downloads.
2. Didn’t those Samsung users have to purchase the app? So Samsung took a chance on 1 mil people/fans wanting to purchase their app. Not too sure there are too many artists that would work with (Beyoncé, Kanye maybe). So truthfully this could’ve backfired.
3. I’m an LL fan, but he’s been out of “touch” with the people for the last decade. I guess Accidental Racist was supposed to be more well received? This clearly comes off as hating. Jay doesn’t need the money, so it’s not about doing numbers anymore. I think the point of putting his album out this way was to say “Fuck the numbers/I could give away 1 million albums and still outdo ya’ll/re-think what it means to control your music and your career”
nope the app was free and didn’t even reach 1mil downloads
@JAMES LITTLE why do u agree with LL? If ur trying to connect and touch as many fans as possible selling ur album to a tech company for 20 mill and let them give it away for free to all of their customer is pure genius hints the phrase “new rules”! y’all need to catch up and pay attention! I have a million cd’s but I also have hundreds of songs on my phone and usb and thats all I play. I don’t even play or buy cds anymore b/c I have to take them out and change them. This is a new day with new technology period. He got paid $20 mill from a major corp to give out 1 mill albums. And he still sold over 500k first wk! Now thats what u call touching ur fans! U and LL need to take notes and pay attention.
@JAMES LITTLE he didn’t reach a mill b/c of a glitch with the app but had over 20 million hits on the app! smh
ll cool jay shld just check the scoreboard >>>>>>[t.co]
LL also tried to compare Walmart to Samsung. Huge difference! Walmart won’t give ur album a way to a million ppl for free. But nice try L.
@jameslittle even if the app was free that’s still 1 mil people downloading. The app had a glitch because 20 mil all tried to download it at the same time. What reason does Jay have to lie about the number of app downloads if he already got paid regardless?
Lets say worst case scenario, Jay doesn’t go platinum (which 500k wk 1 would suggest otherwise)…is that not genius then, to make your money up front with Samsung regardless of how many units you sell on your own? Then you still make what you make off record sales on the side?
Like I said, the app was for the sake of the people. Jay doesn’t even make his $ off albums anymore. He’s not a business man, he’s a business, man…
LL mad cuz his business (Def) jammed.
And another note if you really wanna question if the album did connect with the people the did in fact sell 528,208 Copies First Week So He actually Did Connect with his fans Plus Had Twitter Going crazy when he released a commercial was treding for like 3 days straight now you tell mr ll
The app didn’t glitch because 20mil people tried to download it at the same time, I know because after it glitched, I thought it was because I needed to update it and after I did update it I had the same problem, which was probably due to the servers bandwidth. So I uninstalled it and reinstalled it later that day and the # of dl was still just 500,000+
I’ve always liked LL’s music and his willingness to take chances, BUT his logic is definitely flawed here. The album STILL “touched” 1M people. The only thing that changed is the methodology in which the music was delivered. If Walmart bought 1M copies and decided that they would give them away to the first million people; don’t you think they would run out immediately? The music still gets in the people’s hands regardless of how. People SHIP platinum all the time. Wasn’t that one of the arguments with one of Wayne’s albums?
NOT 1 SINGLE PERSON SHOULD HATE ON HOV FOR THAT MOVE #1 IT WAS GROUND BREAKING AND IF SAMSUNG WOULD HAVE WENT TO LL WITH THAT IDEA HE WOULD HAVE BROKE A HIP JUMPING ALL OVER IT #2 ARTIST’S WOULDNT HAVE TO PULL MOVES LIKE THIS IF YOU BUMB ASS BROKE LAMES WOULD PAY FOR THE ALBUM INSTEAD OF DOWNLOADING IT FREE. AND A MILLION PEOPLE GOT THE ALBUM FREE THANKS TO THIS MOVE AND THEY STILL COMPLAINING LOL CANT PLEASE ANY OF THESE LOSERS THESE DAYS
@James Little why would u need to “update” an app that was only out for like a week? I’m calling bs lol.
Even if the app was at 500k downloads the day you downloaded it, do you really think the number of downloads was that low the next day?
jayz is a fucking nerd, you can see by his interviews that he is such a pussy, great musician but not real i don’t respect that. But this nigga jealous lol, I don’t blame him too many of these dick riding pussys are ready to catch the cum drip off of that niggas dick. You niggas need to grow a pair, this album was subpar, even jay z knows it.
people need to stop the hate appericate simples ll is one of my favs and jay z album was a decent album and too many people slate jay z people need to stop the hating full stop
Does LL understand how PEOPLE like myself actually lost sleep trying to download that album! I’m quite sure over a million fans wanted it and/or downloaded it. Just ask the iPhone users.
THE APP GOT 20 MILLION HITS. BUT THEY ONLY ALLOWED OUT 1.3 MILL GET UR FACTS CORRECT
WHEN I GOT IT IT WAS 853 THOU
U DUMB ASS. WHAT IS HE SUPPOSE 2 TALK LIKE A THUG? SO KEEPING IT REAL IS TALKING AND ACTING LIKE HE HAS NO EDUCATION? HIS GIFT OF GAB AKA RAP GAME CAUSED PEOPLE TO BUY INTO HIS BRAND. HE’S GETTING ENDORSED BY BILLION DOLLAR CORPORATIONS, THE PRES ETC. DO U THINK THAT IF IT WAS MEEK MILL, HE CUD PULL ANY OF THESE MOVES OFF. THESE WHITE RESPECT WHAT YOU SAY AND HOW YOU SAY IT.
@dmv Anybody that had the app would tell you that it needed to be updated just about every time one of those little previews or lyrics came out, which is why I stopped updating it.
@carley you do realize the play store counts by 250,000 so if it was at 853,000 like you said you wouldn’t know because it would say 750,000+. Nice try though.
The once G.O.A.T. can say whatever he needs to say about any rapper past or present. Though he is wrong, even if you didn’t like the album you can’t say this album was heard by the masses.
who listens 2 ll anymore he still sold 527,000 the first week n 2 wks it will b platinum so he sold 1 mill b4 the album drop then another mill 3 wks after it drop