Rudy Giuliani faced off in a wild-eyed, combative interview with CNN’s Chris Cuomo on Wednesday night, in which he continued to insist that his boss, President Donald Trump, has clean hands when it comes to collusion with Russia. Of course, as indictments continue to flurry down on those in Trump’s presidential campaign, the line in the sand keeps getting pushed back further and further.
Due to Mueller’s initial findings, it’s become impossible to deny that those closest to Trump were conspiring with Russia — and the impending full report will ostensibly provide more insight as to who knew what. But in the meantime, Giuliani is still clinging to the notion that Trump in no way had any knowledge of collusion:
“I never said there was no collusion between the campaign or between people in the campaign! [Cuomo: Yes you have.]
I have no idea if — I have not. I said the President of the United States, there is not a single bit of evidence that the President of the United States committed the only crime you can commit here, conspiracy with the Russians to hack the DNC.”
When Cuomo pressed Giuliani on how Trump could be unaware of collusion when “the guy running his campaign,” Paul Manafort was later found guilty of it, what followed was a game of semantics.
“He didn’t say nobody, he said he didn’t. He said he said he didn’t, he didn’t say nobody. How would you know that nobody in your campaign–” Giuliani attempted to shoot back before getting cut off by Cuomo. “He actually did say that, Rudy, he did say nobody and then he said, ‘As far as I know.'”
“Well as far as he knows that’s true! As far as the president knows and as far as I know,” Giuliani countered, inexplicably.
Given how exhausting Giuliani’s logic is, it didn’t take long for the court of public opinion to call him on it:
Meanwhile, Vanity Fair is reporting that Giuliani is privately telling people that he expects the first installment of Mueller’s report, which will detail obstruction of justice, “within the month.” Oh, and also, he now allegedly realizes that he’s made a huge mistake in accepting the gig to counsel Trump — which would not be evident at all by the above footage!
This time, however, Giuliani’s forecast about Mueller’s next move seems to be driven by his fears that the report will be “horrific” for Trump. According to a source, Giuliani recently told a close associate that he’s “very worried about the report.” The mounting pressure has also strained Giuliani’s relationship with Trump. “Rudy hates the job,” a Republican briefed on Giuliani’s thinking told me. “Trump is very hard to deal with.”
In other words, the walls are closing in. Now would be a good time to stock up on popcorn because it sounds as though it’s going to be hitting the fan.