The MTV Video Music Awards are a strange beast. More than any other awards show, it seems like the goal is to shock, be it through wild red carpet moments, on-screen antics, or head-shaking award wins. To that end, the award for Best New Artist is often a bit of a wild card category, with artists like Rihanna and Taylor Swift losing out to bands that have long been forgotten. There are also plenty of artists whose nominations feel, in hindsight, like the apex point of their careers. What’s become of these formerly rising stars? In honor of the next batch of maybe legends, we decided to take a look around the internet to suss out that info.